From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 17:14:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B5E16A422 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:14:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darek@nyi.net) Received: from m.kolocation.com (m.kolocation.com [66.111.12.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16D4443D76 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from darek@nyi.net) Received: (qmail 46249 invoked by uid 89); 16 Nov 2005 17:02:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.50.50.253?) (64.147.100.2) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Nov 2005 17:02:17 -0000 Message-ID: <437B68CD.3020504@nyi.net> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:13:49 -0500 From: Darek Milewski User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Candler References: <6533c1c90511150830r397d07cax670c761482ca4d2b@mail.gmail.com> <20051116123234.GB3208@uk.tiscali.com> <6533c1c90511160524l4f037d2fmc009ecab91a407cf@mail.gmail.com> <20051116134726.GA3561@uk.tiscali.com> In-Reply-To: <20051116134726.GA3561@uk.tiscali.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a data center with lots of FreeBSD machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:14:12 -0000 Brian Candler wrote: >I don't know whether hiding the source IP like this is standard gmail >behaviour, or if you have done something special. Or perhaps you are a >Google employee on their private network? > >If it's standard gmail behaviour, then I'm inclined to blacklist *@gmail.com >entirely. > >Regards, > >Brian. > As far as I know, it *is* google's standard behavior. They hide their webmail users' real IPs, and this has resulted in a tiff with at least one SBL because Gmail is used by many phishers for their scams and Google wasn't very cooperative in dealing with the complaints. So few weeks back Google's mail was being bounced by many users of that list. Not sure whether it has been resolved yet. - Darek