From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 31 17:42:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.yumyumyum.org (dsl092-171-091.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.171.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 370D837B400 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 262 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Feb 2002 01:42:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 01:42:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:42:47 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Culver To: Jason Evans Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= , "Cameron, Frank" , Terry Lambert , David Malone , "'freebsd-current@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: AMD AGP Bug In-Reply-To: <20020131173408.B63502@canonware.com> Message-ID: <20020131204225.W258-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was under the impression that they were writing into the cache not out of it... I really need to read that article again :-D Ken On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Jason Evans wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:14:48PM +0100, G=E9rard Roudier wrote: > > > > Linux can be fixed, but the useless writes of the existing Athlons from > > the very fast cache to the relatively very slow memory cannot. And all > > Athlon users may well pay this penalty under any OS... unless we want = to > > disable caching. :) > > Have you done benchmarks to show that the speculative writes are useless > often enough to cause enough memory bus contention that overall performan= ce > is degraded, despite the speedups when the speculative writes are valid? = I > suspect that AMD in fact performed such tests; otherwise they wouldn't ha= ve > gone to the trouble of implementing speculative writes. > > Jason > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message