From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 12 15:11:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ims1.imagestream.com (ims1.imagestream.com [205.159.243.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DE937B40B; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dhass@localhost) by ims1.imagestream.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA06641; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:10:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:10:57 -0500 (EST) From: Doug Hass To: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Ted Mittelstaedt , MurrayTaylor , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Alfred Shippen Subject: Re: FYI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm providing this to the people whose addresses appear in the original messages. My apologies if this gets cross-posted or sent multiple times to the same place. As I mention below, the WANic 400 series cards and all of the RISCom/N2 series cards are now End Of Life, and only available in special quantity builds. If anyone reading this message needs further information, please contact me directly and I can go into further depth about the EOL cards mentioned below and their replacements in the SBS line. Regards, Doug ----- Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions dhass@imagestream.com http://www.imagestream.com Office: 1-219-935-8484 Fax: 1-219-935-8488 On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Doug Hass wrote: > The WANic 400 series is definitely EOL. The cards are available in > quantities of 100+ only by special order. The RISCom/N2 series cards are > also EOL. > > This is a recent decision--it went into effect as of September 21st. > Closeout quantities have already been sold to other companies, so the > cards are only available by special order. > > The WANic 521/522 have replaced these cards, and should be used instead. > There are no drivers for FreeBSD, however. > > Doug > > > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Alfred Shippen wrote: > > > This guy is local to you and is under the misapprehension that the Risc/400 > > series is not a discontinued item. I dont know if you want to follow them up > > or not. My customer (Bytecraft) is fine by this and has passed on the > > comments to me. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" > > > To: "MurrayTaylor" ; > > > ; > > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:07 PM > > > Subject: RE: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards > > > > > > > > > > The WANic 5xx's use an incompatible chipset and the driver will not > > > > work with them. > > > > > > > > I thnk your supplier is feeding you a line of bullshit. SBS > > > Communications > > > > has posted no plans whatsover to discontinue or change the WANic line. > > > > They are fully aware that the 405's have open source drivers and are > > > > furthermore used in embedded systems too. > > > > > > > > The WANic 5xx series of cards sell for more money and so naturally your > > > > supplier is most interested in maximizing his margin and would prefer to > > > > push you into a more expensive card. > > > > > > > > With the increase in CPU power all of the go-fast hardware on the > > > higher-level > > > > cards is less important. > > > > > > > > Consider that the Hitachi controller chip used on the WANic 405 is the > > > > SAME chip that Cisco uses in it's 25xx series of routers, and the Cisco > > > > 2501 is the most used router in the world and has the most installed > > > > units. > > > > > > > > SBS Communications is STILL selling the RISCom series of cards which is > > > > the predecessor to the WANic, uses the same controller, these are ISA > > > cards > > > > that have a design that's over 10 years old. > > > > > > > > You tell your supplier that since the 405 is being "phased out" that he > > > > should sell you a bunch of them at closeout prices. > > > > > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt > > > tedm@toybox.placo.com > > > > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's > > > Guide > > > > Book website: > > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of MurrayTaylor > > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 4:49 PM > > > > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > >Subject: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As the WanIC-405 is being phased out (according to my supplier > > > > >down under here in OZ), has any development / testing been done on the > > > > >apparent replacement, the WanIC-521 (522, 524 ... ) range > > > > > > > > > >I am especially interested in its compatibility with its predecessor > > > > >which I am using very successfully for frame relay under Netgraph. > > > > > > > > > >I'm trying to get compatability info from the supplier here, > > > > >but we are a long way down the food chain ;-( > > > > > > > > > >Tia > > > > > > > > > >Murray Taylor > > > > >Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd > > > > >murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message