From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 25 21:11:11 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA02494 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:11:11 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA02488 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:11:09 -0700 Received: from ast.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyzzs29532; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:09:44 -0400 Received: from trsvax.fw.ast.com (fw.ast.com) by ast.com with SMTP id AA27922 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:10:28 -0700 Received: by trsvax.fw.ast.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.1) id ; Tue, 25 Jul 95 23:09 CDT Received: by nemesis.lonestar.org (Smail3.1.27.1 #18) id m0saxKg-0004vsC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 22:40 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 22:40 CDT To: terry@cs.weber.edu, bde@zeta.org.au, hackers@freebsd.org, harry@hgac.com, jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, ache@astral.msk.su From: uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org (Frank Durda IV) Sent: Tue Jul 25 1995, 22:40:30 CDT Subject: Re: Tandy DC-1200 modem (also DC-2212s) Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [1]If the modem can't be correctly configgured, I *STRONGLY* urge [1]replacing the modem. A Tandy DT1200 modem won't pass ^N characters, [1]and I would hardly suggest hacking all comm software to avoid ^N [1]to make the bogus modem happy. I concur. The Radio Shack DC-1200 (1200 baud) also uses three CONTROL-Ds in a row to disconnect, with no time limit on spacing. I used to disconnect myself all the time when paging down in vi. As far as I know, CTRL-N wasn't an issue, but the modem is so ancient, and its handling of DTR and other signals is "non-traditional". There is nothing equivalent to AT&D2 or &D3 to reset things after a call. The 16/6000 XENIX had a special kernel dialer to handle this modem. The DC-1200 also has nothing equivalent to Hayes AT commands. That modem was actually made by another company and Radio Shack just sold them. You had to send them back with $300 to the original manufacturer to get them repaired. Throw all DC-1200 and DC-2212 modems away. They don't work with anything, not even with DOS applications. I left a DC-1200 in my Radio Shack office (on purpose) when our department moved since we didn't want it anymore. Tandy sold it as excess material at its outlet store. The modem went through an unknown number of hands over four years and eventually made it to the Dallas monthly Sidewalk sale, where a local UNIX admin saw my name on the back of the modem and bought it for $1 and gave it to me at the monthly area USENET admin lunch. Like a bad nickel, it came back. The next time I got rid of it, I removed my name first. Frank Durda IV |"Remember the Tandy 16/6000? or uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Fastest Route)| BugChk SckMud: Shut her down ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem | Scotty, she's sucking mud again!" ...decvax!fw.ast.com!nemesis!uhclem | Indicates a stack imbalance in the Z80 I/O drivers. Really!