From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 01:33:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5F8169A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 01:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from esa-annu.net.uoguelph.ca (esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E62CDC for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 01:33:43 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoEAKaVblSDaFve/2dsb2JhbABahDwEgwLQJQKBHwEBAQEBfYQCAQEBAwEjVgUWDgoCAg0ZAlkGE4g4Cb10lmkBAQEBAQEBAwEBAQEBAQEBGoEtjyc0B4J3gVQFjBupQYQZHzCBSIEDAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,426,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="171437871" Received: from muskoka.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.222]) by esa-annu.net.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2014 20:32:34 -0500 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A367CB403A; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:32:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 20:32:34 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Macklem To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <606121646.4500834.1416533554657.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <573D346B-3AB8-4EC7-A03F-1B2B1291A5BC@bsdimp.com> Subject: Re: I'd like to axe some drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.17.91.209] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.6_GA_2926 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/7.2.6_GA_2926) Cc: arch@freebsd.org, John-Mark Gurney X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 01:33:44 -0000 Warner Losh wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2014, at 3:07 PM, John-Mark Gurney > wrote: > > > I'm fine w/ removing these... Should we do some house cleaning on > > amd64's GENERIC too? > > > > amd64's GENERIC has a lot of ISA or 100Mbit ethernet cards that are > > clearly not going to be used on these machines... > > > > My recommended list to remove: > > ae, bfe, dc, fxp, hme?, pcn, rl, tx, vr, wb, xl, cs, ed, ex, ep, > > fe, > > sn, xe > > All the PC Card ones (cs, ed, ex, ep, fe, sn, xe) are no brainers to > remove > from GENERIC. > > hme is a Sparc-centric card, so can go. > > The CardBus ones (dc, fxp, rl, re and xl) are less no-brainerish. > Older 64-bit > laptops have only CardBus, and some have these built-in. Since these > types > of systems are rare, and rarely NFS boot, having them as modules is > likely > fine. > Yep. I'm typing this on a laptop that has a single core amd chip and an re(4) net chip. I actually run i386 FreeBSD on it (although I have booted an amd64 FreeBSD CD), so I don't care so long as these old net drivers remain in i386. rick > Of the others, only pcn may be relevant enough to stay. At one time > it was in > there because one of the virtualization programs (qemu? virtual box?) > had that > as its default network config. > > Warner > >