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[91.91.33.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i8sm736128wib.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52460D3F.304@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 00:57:03 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130830 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske Subject: Re: 9.2-PRE: switch off that stupid "Nakatomi Socrates" References: <20130921123125.309f30eb@thor.walstatt.dyndns.org> <523D7784.30002@FreeBSD.org> <5246014B.70908@gmail.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC01B09@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC01B09@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable stable , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:57:18 -0000 On 28.09.2013 00:12, Teske, Devin wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, David Demelier wrote: > >> On 21.09.2013 12:40, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> On 21/09/2013 11:31, O. Hartmann wrote: >>>> I'd like to switch off this silly "Nakatomi Socrates" message which >>>> reminds me on Linux and their childish naming schemes. >>>> >>>> It is only cosmetics, but it bothers me whenever I switch on the laptop. >>>> >>>> I guess there is a switch already prsent to have in the bootloader >>>> config? >>> >>> It's turned off by default in more recent 9.2-STABLE >>> >>> Otherwise: >>> >>> loader_logo="orb" >>> >>> in /boot/loader.conf -- see loader.conf(5) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Matthew >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> I have loader_logo="orb" and I still have a message at the right bottom >> with that stupid joke. >> > > I already responded to this once. > > loader_version="" > > See version.4th(8). > > >> It's really pisses me off *now*. > > Why *now*? I already answered this... (link to archives below) > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-September/075260.html > > If you say that you tried this and it didn't work, then by all means... > come back (pissed off or not) and we'll debug the situation. > I already asked a few weeks ago what was this strange artwork on my boot loader and I was told to use loader_logo to completely disable it. I've first said that it's funny but I would not recommend to enable it by default because it's really not serious and the artwork was really immature in the scope of the FreeBSD project. Then I was "happy" because I get my orb as usual. And today, I've updated to 9.2-RELEASE SVN tag and saw there was again a message about this stupid "Nakatomi Socrates" version in green. So I needed to check again *why* this has been enabled by default and that's why it was starting to get my nerves. I personally think (but you may totally disagree with) that an operating system *is* an operating system. And I really hate easter eggs or anything else not serious being integrated into the system. I think about a new user installing FreeBSD 9.2, I would not imagine his reaction front of this kind of "tribute" or whatever you call that. For me it stands for "that's not serious, it looks like a toy". Fortunately now it's just a "version" but I would really not imagine when the screen was looking with the "tribute" loader_logo. Seriously, I don't understand why people waste time to create jokes like that instead of working on serious issues. You may think I'm putting to much significance on this kind of matter but I like (and I'm not the only one) serious, clean things. And the real reason that made me yell like that was that I needed to ask / complain a second time to remove that "tribute" thing again. > The person that recommended loader_logo was incorrectly thinking you > were talking about the ARTWORK that you get by default in RC1-RC3 which > is now non-default (requiring loader_logo="tribute" to enable beyond RC3). > > The "named releases" however are staying enabled by default. > > And as I answered in the archives... > > loader_version="whatever you want to name your release" > > or > > loader_version="" > > is how you customize the text which seems to piss you off so much. > Thanks. > > >> I already said it was okay to add a new >> logo for that stupid joke. But now, I have orb set and I still see that >> in my bootloader. >> >> How can I disable this forever ?! >> > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-September/075260.html > > >> Also in the future you can just forgot that crappy ideas as you can see, >> nobody liked it. >> > > Uh... I'm ignoring that. > Check again in the lists, I'm not the only one complaining on that.