From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 02:03:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86F737B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57443F75 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D48C251A9E; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:33:32 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:33:32 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Terry Lambert Message-ID: <20030619090332.GO93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3EEF00E4.9000908@freebsd.mheller.org> <20030617.060806.42773474.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030618023138.GE93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030617.204100.122615446.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030618034838.GJ93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3EF0331A.2F2CF1DB@mindspring.com> <20030619003054.GC93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3EF17471.36CC59B9@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wYx7iHgGHd1LEkZJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EF17471.36CC59B9@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relating toBSDsettlement agreement X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:03:05 -0000 --wYx7iHgGHd1LEkZJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, 19 June 2003 at 1:29:37 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 18 June 2003 at 2:38:34 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: >>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>>> Yes, it reminded me of that thread, but wkt was actually referring to >>>> System III, not 32V. >>> >>> I am also pretty certain that it was widely stated at the time >>> that the UCB's license was the older Western Electric license, >>> which is the same license which allowed Lyon's to publish his >>> commentary, legally, including the kernel source code. >> >> I suppose you mean John Lions. > > Yes. I always spell his name wrong. > >> He got into a lot of trouble for that, and I doubt he would have >> got away with it in the USA. > > Really? Can you point to the signed non-disclosure agreement > that he violated in order to publish his commentary? The U.S. > was not nearly as anal about this stuff until the 1980's. Things have got worse, yes. But certainly there was enough trouble in the 70s. >>> While the university, proper, did obtain a more modern license, that >>> license could not be retroactive to change the terms of the original >>> license. >> >> Which university are you talking about? UCB or UNSW? > > UCB. But John was at UNSW. > You're in the area, aren't you? =20 For some definition of area. UNSW is about 1400 km away. But I'll be in the area in about 6 weeks time. > Why don't you ask to see the original license agreement that Lions > was under at the time of his commentary's publication. I think I'll ask Greg Rose. He might have some interesting insights. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --wYx7iHgGHd1LEkZJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+8XxkIubykFB6QiMRAo5LAKCBYtcKiAUQcZ4X5cB45Ee06RneNgCfQixV ZuigxfbKgW1mOv1TYPqqJNk= =RJoU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wYx7iHgGHd1LEkZJ--