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Date:      Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:45:12 +0200
From:      Jerome Herman <jherman@dichotomia.fr>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Making world but no kernel
Message-ID:  <4E2EE108.3020005@dichotomia.fr>
In-Reply-To: <1311693565.1799.81.camel@xenon>
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On 26/07/2011 17:19, Michal Varga wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 16:28 +0200, Jerome Herman wrote:
>
>>> PS: Whatever that means, please don't get your sources through
>>> "sysinstall", that monster shouldn't even be present in a seriously
>>> maintained FreeBSD installation. Get your sources "the proper way" with
>>> csup:
>>>
>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html
>>>
>>> (note - "csup", not "cvsup", it's explained on the page in detail)
>> Well since I am not upgrading, but just making sure things are where
>> they should be I figured that sysinstall was OK for the job.
>> Any problems with sysinstall ? I have been quite happy with it in the
>> 10+ years I have been using FreeBSD.
>>
> Well, that depends. Probably every single time I've seen someone
> touching sysinstal in a post-install environment, that OS was instantly
> rendered as much as good for a complete reinstall. It's just "one of
> those things" that shouldn't be present in any rescue scenario.
Oh, I think I know what you are talking about. Sometimes, on some 
packages would replace /etc files by their default counterpart.
This was fixed quite a long time ago, but it was fun indeed.

>
> Anyway - I can't comment on the specific procedure you're going to
> employ through sysinstall as I haven't even physically seen that thing
> for years (and as far as I know, it has been finally nuked from orbit
> for the upcoming FreeBSD 9 release), but it wasn't even being actively
> developed for those past 10 years you mention (I might be exaggerating a
> bit, but it has been a well known fact for years that sysinstall is an
> unmaintained rotting mess, which in turn recently led to it being
> finally replaced).
>
> Using csup was just an advice to make yourself perfectly sure about the
> outcome. It's very easy to point your supfile to -
>
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_2
>
> (that's the vanilla release I understand you need to rebuild)
>
> - and be 100% sure about what's going to happen and what sources you're
> going to get. Upgrading or not, that plays no role in this scenario, as
> csup is just a way of getting a specific source tree, no matter how
> you're going to use it later.
>
> Basically, I wouldn't trust sysinstall with installing FreeBSD for a
> start, and surely not with a recovery procedure where you have exactly 0
> tries left in case you fail. So I'm just pointing that out.
>
> m.
>
>




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