From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 16 11:45:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24790 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24785 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07182; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610161843.LAA07182@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Terry Lambert cc: jdw@wwwi.com (Jeffrey D. Wheelhouse), freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IP bugs in FreeBSD 2.1.5 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:14:01 PDT." <199610161814.LAA03254@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:43:37 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Terry Lambert : > > That divergance is exactly the problem I am trying to point out. > > Already three "significant contributors" people have said that > > -stable isn't worth the trouble. However, stable is the only choice > > for people who want a stable OS who don't have a lot of time to > > invest in sanitizing their own private -current. > > > > >So... I would rather see a 2.2R that was, perhaps, a bit rough at the > > >edges (like 2.0R) sooner rather than later. > > > > I agree. If -stable has abandoned, it's time to look toward something > > new. Based on the assertions that several people have made that > > "current is usually fairly stable," it seems like the benefits of > > this might far outweigh the effort, or at least the possibility is > > real enough to discuss. > > I think you are missing the answer: > > Stable gets to be called stable after bunches of people have tested > a release candidate. Bunches of people are not willing to test an > interim release when something newer is available. > > > Stable has not been abandoned. When current is code cut as a release > candidate and is deemed to be sufficient stable to be called stable, > then there will be a new stable. > > > So it comes down to: > > Do you want it to be stable? > > Or do you want people to make bug fixes to it, potentially rendering > it unstable? > > You can't have both. > Actually, if an ISP or two volunteers to update -stable that is to add patches and test the patches in a production environment we can have both 8) Amancio