From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 10 13:34:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11091 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11081 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24839; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607102033.OAA24839@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Subject: Re: Some recent changes to GENERIC In-Reply-To: <199607101912.VAA11213@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <199607101721.LAA23842@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199607101912.VAA11213@uriah.heep.sax.de> Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Making folks build their own custom kernels is a step in the wrong > > direction. We should be providing 'out-of-the-box' solutions solutions > > for them in the same manner as pre-built ports. > > I will fully support this opinion as soon as we have pageable kernel > memory. Right now, the kitchen-sink kernel wastes a few hundred pages > of valuable physical memory for the average user, i think that's a > very high price. Huh? The kernel that we used to ship vs. the kernel we know will ship (unless Jordan changes his mind) is only different by at most 1-2 pages. We haven't gained the end-user anything significant and caused him more trouble. And, I think the average user would be willing to 'waste' a 100K or so to not have to take up 40MB of disk space for his own custom kernel, which requires sys and usrsbin sources. Nate