From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Thu May 21 15:35:16 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C19E2DC351; Thu, 21 May 2020 15:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (mail.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49SYbQ6r3Cz3fHv; Thu, 21 May 2020 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (naddy@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1jbnDt-00BfEP-HM; Thu, 21 May 2020 17:35:05 +0200 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 04LFU2ZE070293; Thu, 21 May 2020 17:30:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 04LFU1PT070291; Thu, 21 May 2020 17:30:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 17:30:01 +0200 From: Christian Weisgerber To: Adam Weinberger Cc: ports-committers , svn-ports-all , svn-ports-head Subject: Re: svn commit: r535779 - in head/net/openntpd: . files Message-ID: <20200521153001.GA69712@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> References: <202005181936.04IJapSo043084@repo.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49SYbQ6r3Cz3fHv X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of naddy@mips.inka.de has no SPF policy when checking 2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c) smtp.mailfrom=naddy@mips.inka.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.45)[-0.450]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inka.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.04)[-0.036]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.16)[0.156]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:202113, ipnet:2a04:c9c7::/32, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 15:35:16 -0000 Adam Weinberger: > > Author: naddy > > Date: Mon May 18 19:36:51 2020 > > New Revision: 535779 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/535779 > > > > Log: > > Add a note in pkg-message that you need to override the manual search > > path to view the correct ntpd(8) man page. > > Is there value to installing the manpage as openntpd.1, or creating > that as a symlink? Then you have a man page whose name is different from the command it describes. Of course, sbin/ntpd could be renamed to sbin/openntpd. But how about ntpd.conf, ntpctl? This just keeps spiralling. I'll note that net/ntp and net/ntpsec conflict even more with base ntp. Should those be renamed as well? > It'd work around that underlying problem, and > frankly `man openntpd` is the first place I inevitably look for > openntpd's manpage. When you install security/openssh-portable, do you try "man openssh"? net/isc-dhcp44-*? How to deal with ports that install components that have name conflicts with the base system is a general problem, and there doesn't seem to be a good solution. I don't like pkg-message either, but bjk@ suggested it. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2020-May/034062.html If it upsets the status quo too much, I'll happily revert it. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de