From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 25 14:23:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E91DDD981C for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x242.google.com (mail-vk0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 658393007 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id z187so995680vkd.4 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 07:23:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nQFlNJvhavqMBk8uG9EZc5Tkra5EKZ+EK4tRdW71lvs=; b=rMmnG+Z1OZPLuKwsqg3LIHGEZupTdXd/XNB0kblP1IOL7njyuB1LZcnWvKMJYt+tzd z+fZ70wg/Rw8vdbbD14DEEYviFCl6pdH0M6VHOJxhWDfHfJ+qgp7WZKANBuPVCeBaR/y bY7g2R6MOuwh3FYzJnR0WlzP90ysdq4jQpikRJiSRKgOrDZZoa0rdQo3+Kexuajiyfks ZtmvVat0XzY5rUNSm3ts/BC91y4y0Wp4nQqDTuB9WNv5zZKlGGXCg0anv5ISgVuHOrQy 6fNw1IPzjaNDtT72li4lQwa62NPt+lm1KiQ1MJGH0TK3n8pIj/9g3FR3YiTnsMr0m+ex Q5YA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=nQFlNJvhavqMBk8uG9EZc5Tkra5EKZ+EK4tRdW71lvs=; b=EuM27nJRB58Z403Ic5WyuBDWMcXb1FfoGXGRkzWLmGN/TwjwVVaR//yYy7OhzngzZz F/vmcqvIvjDBQw5ADxAjkiGXnLzsna/JNt5kLpAx8lzcjF2aRol03Jp/46dugPz8aYZA ZOsTrslzezWnIL+mg1vBXPfxjQ0B33HsOeMj+op1uT02BthxIel4yuy2ytUyrF572+nC dAk6Pz0qpWhi8E2pLFfYHayf/KnPb7NQGPbsdgcYcpEf23YcuXxucUMlobO2eicT9Okg odXU+DLycymb8ZPuzqHWT/xpg5DTUeChga9uEt2CsK2wdAuBPX1KSRbJXtUsRy0n5xUe nv3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5hczBMeIssyGhhFYKVULMEdifKmBuAjipupnsyyB1x5mnqPjDCa pv3peEKRfHTXlNe4jG/QDy+dyF4OVq7A X-Received: by 10.31.214.131 with SMTP id n125mr7101241vkg.198.1503671017182; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 07:23:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.53.148 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 07:23:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170816021959.R12950@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20170816021959.R12950@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:23:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [OT] two birds with one stone :) To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:23:38 -0000 On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 689, Issue 2 > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:22:52 -0300 > > From: SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 > > Subject: The history show that Theo de Raadt was right about > > virtualization? > > > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119318909016582 > [..] > > The history show that Theo de Raadt was right about virtualization? > > What do you reckon, ten years less two months later? > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:50:41 -0400 (EDT) > > From: "Sedo :: Customer Support" > > Subject: Re: 111 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > No Value > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Sure got that right .. > > [Sorry folks, couldn't resist ..] > I am amazed at how large companies have blindly bought into Amazon AWS and don't even realize how outrageously expensive it becomes when you actually do scale. Orders of magnitude higher than the cost and risk of real sysadmins and real hardware. Most applications are being developed around RDS, SQS and all the other packaged services that AWS offers, and certified AWS TechOps dudes are becoming evermore stupid Amazon drones.... which is getting these companies in a vendor lock situation that I hadn't seen since the 80's. It's like Microsoft all over again but now using the very same Open Source technology that we helped build all these years. Not sure if AWS is even fully legal, for example is RDS technology Open Source too even though it wraps MySQL and PostgreSQL ? Is there a technicality they are exploiting ? What's the MQ technology around SQS, are they releasing that ? Scary stuff when you see how much of the Internet is on AWS....