From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 1 21:35:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CE7ECBBB0 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 21:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22d.google.com (mail-ua0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A862E68972 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 21:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id n2so12885631uak.9 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2018 13:35:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=x9q/XkYLqVLhGzg/3AE8KFBeq4/YXGIwSgZdnFM1VCQ=; b=Ef1OizoAgbec4FK0Mp/p3RgUa+arwO7ghH5tksL4cvQVL1Ud3FOQHWGK0Yys3T1CUP rkLsSdJor5WNgybAV3ukC01ACm8xH25AjzI991EysCLK2CnQCfQcLF/PwIJmzrh+SC8M O7g0RwbtS0J700VYAs27zfaFLaknV5h+igvlgNBbXN5wY2f3K0YPA7c6FAtynFKq1h0S ekyY+/h8+0HAhfQzn5+xfXJSm9JuCosfkkrU9AUV6S9AjqX+L+6BVUo5XuxqErl7RndZ QaXzkPB/EX671PjRy8jEx+5hFoVNcJmwcPM3uUF1dHcDcC/FYVLqFy6+MXOrW7ZdSnyf rzQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=x9q/XkYLqVLhGzg/3AE8KFBeq4/YXGIwSgZdnFM1VCQ=; b=XxOnfGviFQbCWm9ki4mDrqbY5RmDVydKLm0qfgxf9/su8FlRo4Il55sNBhYx6Z6mXk I3ad8K4WPB9zH2yw3ScOiuhdGMf0cnYEq8Iq6NwU/IDMlmwGTT6W3nJ6iJGTO2sP5RiR RMiLvhamLEIvJ4urdhT71fZftQ8NQU12j/rfoZPna04enWXKOLqZBv3KPH6CzJj6Ivd1 6W4WqePnTgyZzNg8QIxzAqKY+2YHWB4EA0gkTlv6VB/rkOUdR3rKkQugLlYWfyD1gpCb 5D5/ijwxHBpQGw3lydlAVHUlSofD2IyD2hGEcBPO7SOc0lh5evoP5iaYM55N2+yciyy8 mUyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytcala5+l3pXay1Or4qGaI5bz9TgPRNDkWUdzU/ZrPYCyXSGtiD8 yLbqGxNo6LJc5PJcVkZilGMzOQ8OIcPkSFwa7nTuOg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224y6VNemQQyTc5pMjorbxuTCub9lr5QO0Qybj8XmdBlKxxeBnkLoxzON7w8tVDBDoWES3Csv1+wFANyM/wAxxQ= X-Received: by 10.176.80.211 with SMTP id d19mr30894337uaa.88.1517520917811; Thu, 01 Feb 2018 13:35:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.119.211 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:35:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <09DEB81A-3DC1-4147-9249-0497C89F429B@council124.org> References: <8F08E935-33A8-4B5F-9057-51FAD51DA97D@council124.org> <20180201121251.95e345cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <09DEB81A-3DC1-4147-9249-0497C89F429B@council124.org> From: Waitman Gobble Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:35:17 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sound-card/driver question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 21:35:19 -0000 On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:24 PM, C Gray wrote: > > Much appreciation for sharing that wisdom. > Ordering the card now. > > thanks and best wishes, > chris > > On 01-February-2018, at 03:12 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:02:30 -0800, C Gray wrote: > >> I have a Dell PowerEdge T300 server which has the following slots available: > >> slot 1: 3.3-V, full-length PCIe x4 with x8 connector > >> slot 2: 3.3-V, full-length PCIe x4 > >> slot 3: 3.3-V, full-length PCIe x8 > >> slot 4: 3.3-V, full-length PCIe x8 > >> slot 5: 3.3-V, full-length PCI-X > >> > >> The system is based around: > >> Xeon X3440 @ 2.50 GHz Quad core > >> 2GB DDR3 RAM. > >> > >> It's been said that a driver supported for Vista will work with for FreeBSD. > > > > That sounds very strange. Both systems are so fundamentally > > different in architecture and binary interfaces. > > > > > > > >> The card I am looking at works with Microsoft Windows7, Vista, and XP. > >> It's PCI-X based, and would, thus, be inserted into [my] slot 5: > >> Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer SB0770 7.1-Channel > >> PCI Sound Card > >> > >> My question is whether the CD of sound card drivers are in a > >> standardized format such that, > >> FreeBSD/TrueOS can use them, as is, just as the Microsoft-verified > >> environments do? > > > > Probably not. > > > > But it's not needed. FreeBSD provides the drivers needed and loads > > them automatically at system startup once the hardware has been > > detected properly. There usually is no need to manually download > > or install something. > > > > I've been using Creative Labs SoundBlaster cards in the past, and > > the OS automatically loaded the correct driver. You can easily > > verify this with > > > > # pciconf -lv | less > > > > and > > > > # cat /dev/sndstat > > > > The sound card should then be listed, and the corresponding driver > > right next to it. > > > > SoundBlaster cards have a long tradition of out-of-the-box support > > on FreeBSD. Even on Linux, ALSA seems to provide support for this > > particular card. > > > > > > > >> Do they even use the same suffix? > > > > What kind of suffix are you talking about? > > > > > > > >> Are they well-written enough to discover the platform whereon > >> they are expected to run (*that is, to "drive"). > > > > Probably not. Drivers made for "Windows" will only work on a > > specific subset of "Windows" versions, i. e., the "driver system" > > they have been created for. So their use is even limited within > > the "Windows" ecosystem, and outside of it, they are more or > > less useless. > > > > > > > >> It the OS discovers the driver rather than the driver > >> discovering the OS, the same functional use may be achieved, > >> however, I'm ignorant other than > >> guessing as to how drivers work and what is required for that > >> to take place. > > > > As I said, manually supplying drivers is not needed on FreeBSD > > because the drivers are already there. The OS discovers the > > hardware and loads the driver. Simple and easy. :-) > > > > > > > >> Where are they stored in Windows and in FreeBSD, and how do I > >> install the proper one from the > >> disk accompanying the card (most likely meant for Microsoft's > >> toolset/installer. > > > > You don't. The OS already has the drivers installed. > > > > > > > >> Suggestions? > > > > If you have the card at hand, install it as recommended into the > > system and boot FreeBSD. With the commands mentioned above, check > > if (a) the device has been recognized, and (b) the appropriate > > driver has been loaded. There isn't much more you have to do, as > > FreeBSD is a "plug & play" OS. :-) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Polytropon > > Magdeburg, Germany > > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > C Gray > frankfenderbender@council124.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" If you are an audiophile.... I'm pretty sure i saw a note in the Creative driver source that it only supports up to 48Khz. ... uggh. Option, you can pay 10 bucks for OSS if you can get ahold of an older card, this works great with older Asus Xonar cards but the currently available cards use a different chipset that totally does not work. It would be risky to buy one without knowing for certain the chipset used. Here's a USB adapter that supports 192 KHz and works with FreeBSD. And it's cheap. Sewell Direct Soundbox Pro External USB Sound Card, 24 bit 192 KHz Audio, 7.1 Channels Sound Cards SW-30415 It's what I believe to be a rebrand, I bought the exact same unit several years ago under a different name. -- Waitman Gobble Los Altos California USA 650-621-0423