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Date:      Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:03:38 +0100
From:      Stephen Riehm <lists@opensauce.de>
To:        "Michael W. Lucas" <mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com>
Cc:        jail@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: preferred jail management tool
Message-ID:  <687EBDEB-4410-4BBF-AB7E-330BABFEB103@opensauce.de>
In-Reply-To: <20150123210026.GA45086@mail.michaelwlucas.com>
References:  <20150123210026.GA45086@mail.michaelwlucas.com>

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Hi Michael,

as someone who first encountered jails with FreeBSD 10.0, I got utterly
frustrated trying to set them up for IPv6 for example. The thing that
bugged me most was that whenever I went looking for help online, I kept =
on
getting posts relating to FreeBSD 8.0 or 9.1, only to find out later
"that was deprecated in 10.0"... gggrrrrr

Anyway, I'll be very interested to read what you come up with!
Like I said, none of the tutorials or tools that I found covered what I =
wanted
to do, and now, I'm not even sure if it's possible... but that's what I
get for not just blindly following the tutorials and being happy with =
the
incomplete results :-|

Good luck!

Cheers,

Steve

PS: I tried ezjail, qjail and manual setup... and failed with all three =
(though,
mostly with the networking stuff).
I'm using ZFS, and want to set up multiple jail-networks (for =
development/testing
of a peer-to-peer app that chats locally and across sub-nets), separate =
jails for
various, un-related web-services, network daemons (dhcp, dns, smtp/imap) =
etc.
I was also quite interested in beadm(1) and the way it uses a jail to =
set up a new OS
allowing you to then switch from one installation to another by changing =
the ZFS dataset
mountpoint configuration.


On 23 Jan 2015, at 22:00, Michael W. Lucas <mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com> =
wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> For those who haven't heard, I'm writing a book on jails. Some details
> are at http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/2286.
>=20
> I want to cover at least one jail management tool. I've done some
> research into jail tools. You can see my results at
> http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/2291.
>=20
> (No, I'm not trying to drag traffic to my blog. I just don't want to
> cut-and-paste it to a mailing list. ;-)
>=20
> I have several choices of jail management tools to write about.  It
> seems that ezjail gets all the press. I'm wondering if this is because
> it's the first tool, or if it's the best of its kind.
>=20
> I also hear a lot of whinging about ezjail. I suspect that's because
> it's the most widely deployed tool of it's type, however. The one in
> front gets the most mud slung at it.
>=20
> Looking at the documentation, I'm highly intrigued by iocage. It seems
> to do everything that ezjail does and then some.
>=20
> CBSD also looks like a really good choice. Based on what I know now,
> I'm inclined to cover iocage and CBSD.
>=20
> I want to ask the experts, though. Which is you guys.
>=20
> Any recommendations on what I should cover, or not cover? Any big
> screaming red flags in these tools that I should be aware of?
>=20
> Thanks,
> =3D=3Dml
>=20
> --=20
> Michael W. Lucas  -  mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor=20
> http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/
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