From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 16 10:54:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E288516A407 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AAB43D5C for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p77so1845537nfc for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jci0RTogC2+MdTDNVoy64+7rbbd0nPnp53LpXXtuyh0XwrvUwVFvTFtLE9lm3HT7mcZO9jKfHKREh6mjN/zvoyawPwwi7VsNkuwQtmPrm2pvSyytcndgXj5Q0QSDXs5mIN/H5U4g0TcPV/JcBSai2ZavVTsgX/Jksv/qZOl1dfY= Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr11942446nfj; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.203.16 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:53:49 -0700 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Alexandre Vieira" In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0610160347y8fde52bq2fa095bdf33f2ab5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061016053718.GA7608@lakshmi.susmita.org> <755cb9fc0610160347y8fde52bq2fa095bdf33f2ab5@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:54:09 -0000 That was after I left Netapp for a spell (and later came back once the vacation ran out) and it was supported before then by _something_ linux. That was fall of 03. Not trying to debate..just it'll still be 08 before it's likely to be universally supported. On 10/16/06, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > > > On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler wrote: > > Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space. > > > > I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that > > -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the > > amazing lack of iscsi support. > > > > Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so? Maybe 2003? > > > > C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how > > did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long? > > > > > > > > On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam < girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: > > > > On 10/15/06, William Tracy < afishionado@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD > > > >can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. > > > > > > Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or > intellectual gymnastics will help you. > > > > > > Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything. > > > > > > There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze. > > > > > > But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available > in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD. > > > > > > Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV > cards, remote controls and other rare hardware. > > > > > > BSDs also have support but somewhat limited. > > > > > > FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features > hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good. > > > > > > OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is > also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and > feature rich as OpenBSD. > > > > > > Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw > surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways. > > > > > > Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will > give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is > subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience. > > > > > > In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can > emulate linux binaries too. > > > > > > I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind. > > > > > > If you like it, stick to it , else go back. > > > > > > Nobody is forcing you. > > > > > > But remember, give it enough time and be open. > > > > > > regards, > > > Girish > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Hello, > > As far as I can tell Linux only had mainstream/official iscsi support in > 2.6.12 (2005-06). > > > > -- > Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com >