From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 24 13: 4: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF3337B406; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19317; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:04:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6OK40V01576; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:04:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:04:00 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: Jordan Hubbard , mike@adept.org, jandrese@mitre.org, geniusj@bluenugget.net, mike@sentex.net, sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc="1"...... Message-ID: <20010724220400.A1558@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3B5D94E7.4680ACEF@mitre.org> <20010724093512W.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010724204131.355a3ae6.steveo@eircom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010724204131.355a3ae6.steveo@eircom.net>; from steveo@eircom.net on Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 08:41:31PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 08:41:31PM +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:35:12 -0700 > Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > JH> You want a server, use SCSI drives at the very minimum and some sort > JH> of RAID product on top of that if it's really genuinely a server. The > JH> hardware's cheap enough now that there's simply no excuse for not > JH> taking such steps. Enough said. > > OT I know, but I have been seriously considering that since complete > systems are sufficiently cheap these days (especially when built without > RAID or SCSI) that it may make more sense to forgoe the SCSI and RAID in > favour of a complete spare system and use a software mirror (or load > duplication) to keep it available for a hot swap. One benefit of this approach > is that the hardware is on *much* shorter lead times this way because it's all > off the shelf and alternatives are feasible. But lots more downtime if you are unlucky. Like you said, it all depends on what level of uptime you want to guarantee. Clustering comes to mind > There's more than one way to skin a cat. You should not talk about skinning cats in Jordan's presence. :) Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte "Youth is not a time in life, it is a state of mind" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message