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( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p27sm8762263ele.2007.11.05.02.05.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:05:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <472EEADF.1000008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:05:19 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d@delphij.net References: <472D56A1.7070206@gmail.com> <200711041119.45971.jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu> <472DD231.9030501@gmail.com> <472E67CC.9040201@delphij.net> <472E4FF0.3080801@gmail.com> <472EB211.7050001@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <472EB211.7050001@delphij.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:05:32 -0000 Xin LI wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > >> The wiki was not meant to replace the list just be a central record >> keeping location for the group working on the issue. >> > > Well, I think that if there is a problem then we need to work it out > ASAP, and this is not what a wiki for. What wiki's are better suited > for is some issues that are not easily resolved, and be documented. > Since I am not the only person with these issues, see "sata ihc9r" thread in -current, just the only one to document them formally (so far) [hopefully the other two will write a good summary of the acd issue they are seeing] there is need for easy reference for anyone working on patches (or new frameworks such as one of person informed me of privately). Among other things the wiki is meant as a way of knowinig the status of each task (may not be issue based per se). I suspect some of these issues may be quickly resolved and the others will require some research thus they may spread out of a few weeks or months. > Let's see what the "issues" on the wiki: > > - Mis-numbered adXXX on SATA drives > This is non-issue. It's well documented in ata(4) that you can change > the behavior by removing the anti-foot-shooting option ATA_STATIC_ID > from your kernel configuration; > The default behaviour should be fixed if it is so easy then. > - Wrong SATA type/speed reported > More information is needed if you really want to have this problem > resolved, like atacontrol output, etc. > See the SATA ihc9 and previous threads if you really need to know all the messy details but the bottom line is I have been told by several of the ATA developers that since they do not have IHC9 machines P35/IHC9 owners where on their own (and thus the need for informal group the wiki is aimed at) > - PATA/SATA co-existence > Is the PATA chip supported by the driver? What's its PCI IDs? > You accuse me of not doing my research... a simple search of the various threads these issues have come up will tell you that: 1. Yes it does show up (I can even boot from it) but it is complete gone from dmesg (even verbose), pciutil, etc. 2. The answer to the type/speed type issue from the commuhity is the same one I got here > Also I would like to say that it is much more useful if you will have > someone who donate the proper hardware to sos@, our Mr. ATA. He is very > knowledgeable about the driver and ATA/SATA stuff, and a very responsive > person. > 1. I will have to look it up but I think he is the one of the people that told me p35/ihc9 owners where on their own. 2. Some of the issues are pressing and some are just annonyances the only pressing one for me is the PATA/SATA one and that is likelly to be the last one fixed because I suspect it relies on fixing the type/speed and (yet to be documented) acd issue(s). -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, no business friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com