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From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To: Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>, dan_partelly <dan_partelly@rdsor.ro>,
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Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
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On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:27:51PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:18:00PM +0300, dan_partelly wrote:
> > 
> > be as terse as possible. You guys seen the "Add remove programs"
> >  in Windows control panel ? Thats sane. Even now the default output  
> > of pkg borders insane, when you have many packages installed. 99% of my
> > time
> > I dont really care about lib-rtyum546.78.9. I care only less than 1% of my
> > time when something 
> > goes wrong. 
> 
> Don't use "pkg info" then. Use "pkg leaf":
> 
> % pkg info | wc -l
>      249
> % pkg leaf | wc -l
>       25
> 
> "leaf" is an alias for:
> pkg 'query -e "%a == 0" "%n-%v"'

slw@pkg-test:~ % pkg leaf | wc -l
       1
slw@pkg-test:~ % pkg leaf 
pkg-1.7.2
slw@pkg-test:~ % pkg info | wc -l
     756

> And to everyone complaining about the number of packages: How many of
> you have actually used the packaged base?


Wrong question: I am already complain about Xorg spliting.

Some servers managed by me have 53 packages, included 29 as p5-libwww.