From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 1 01:07:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBAF16A4DA; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899A243D58; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 01:07:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B39C290C6D; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:07:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39879-05; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:07:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1046) id 9F987290C98; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:07:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C3C290C6D; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:07:22 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:07:22 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@hub.org To: Jeff Rollin In-Reply-To: <8a0028260608311655o7d34977cg2ad4465c4618781a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060831220609.B82634@hub.org> References: <20060830232723.GU10101@multics.mit.edu> <98f5a8830608301731s2b0663e3g94b0bd32f8a06a78@mail.gmail.com> <950621ad0608310654h78ae0023g346abd108815ae72@mail.gmail.com> <20060831110112.J82634@hub.org> <20060831184715.B82634@hub.org> <20060831223543.GC15085@jp.animata.net> <20060831195609.P82634@hub.org> <8a0028260608311655o7d34977cg2ad4465c4618781a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:15:37 +0000 Cc: misc@openbsd.org, Harpalus a Como , Pedro Martelletto , "Constantine A. Murenin" , "Marc G. Fournier" , Thorsten Glaser , netbsd-users@netbsd.org, miros-discuss@mirbsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:07:43 -0000 On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 01/09/06, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> so, should I then switch to Linux because they do welcome >> 'vendor written drivers'? > > > If by 'vendor-written drivers' you mean binary-only drivers, then no, the > linux kernel developers emphatically do not accept them. They would much > prefer that all vendors release open source drivers, since (amongst other > things) if they do, that means they (the LKD's) will be responsible for > making sure that when the device driver ABI changes, all open-source drivers > are rewritten and recompiled to work with that version of the kernel. Nope, definitely not binary-only ... I meant source code drivers provided by a vendor, and supported by them ... apologies if I gave the impression that "binary-only drivers" where acceptable :(