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Date:      Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:57:22 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij)
To:        john@starfire.mn.org
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ICMP REJECT and telnet with FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <199608221757.TAA20865@gvr.win.tue.nl>
In-Reply-To: <199608221354.IAA19336@starfire.mn.org> from "john@starfire.mn.org" at "Aug 22, 96 08:54:51 am"

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john@starfire.mn.org wrote:
> 
> I set up the firewall to "reject" instead of "deny" unauthorized
> TCP setups, and allowed ICMP so that these rejects could be
> communicated.  This works as expected with SCO ODT, SunOS, and
> UnixWare 2.03 in that the reject is immediately detected and reported
> by telnet, but when attempting to connect from an unauthorized
> FreeBSD machine, either 2.1.0-R or 2.1.5-R, telnet takes just as
> long to report the reject as it would the timeout if I had used
> "deny" instead of "reject" (one minute, 14 seconds, and some change).
> 
> Is this a design feature, a desired behavior, or something that
> merits further investigation, either by me or someone else?
> 

It is by design: it would break TCP if the TCP layer would listen to
ICMP host unreachables. Indeed: this maybe a temporary failure and
the routing might be working again 10 seconds later.

In stead, use ipfilter and send back a TCP reset when such a packet
comes in.

-Guido



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