From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 08:16:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0745106564A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572748FC0A for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (pD9E2C65D.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.198.93]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CECB2E0F8; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:58:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE1065F00; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:57:54 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1226822274; bh=hMwwTQ5NRVGR7rKCObJOD20mXdmEcyTCh GU4ZMl6QBY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ctSpw14vjTiR+kQdlXU4JXm/rKC2EdLtLGBXong5qaktHPSkSXkfduOuor7md9KAi xjrqSkmkhBZYOz8MgC+emDXZM918srsj6REI+qPVnWe1u7Bv3fJZ76PBWvSw3iCGxp9 VjVpwWo6Lz42yULP+Vh2cn1F8gA3V+QLvJfi66Icg8SIpcMr1eK4fNPsWT7xh8pEz9M nGlSN+2lbh+4IIYWiuHHTYlP5CYfk8BYavX9/kI3P07IMxIX1JQ0pU5/eOVf2Xh7NuD TwZaN0USCBD7JfXaJJXwb10chaa8TjbnllSOPcq+plOQkw4mfPCeq00XP5f/XvJc+W4 LDzGKld1g== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mAG7vsUr007248; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:57:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from 192.168.2.100 ([192.168.2.100]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:57:53 +0100 Message-ID: <20081116085753.10415gcgqo0etm04@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:57:53 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Garrett Cooper References: <1155143A-D9F9-4988-B648-F9CDC2A4080C@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1155143A-D9F9-4988-B648-F9CDC2A4080C@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 0CECB2E0F8.61AB8 X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.89, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, NO_RDNS2 0.01, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:37:21 +0000 Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Request for individuals interested in reviewing test / python topics X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:16:40 -0000 Quoting Garrett Cooper (from Sat, 15 Nov 2008 =20 14:08:02 -0800): > Hello Hackers and Porters, > =09I'm currently working on a proposal to the FreeBSD foundation to =20 > use Python Nose as a testing framework for writing tests. If there are Are you aware of the history of the current regression tests? If not: It started without a structure, then some work was done to move to the =20 perl testing framework style (really only the output of the tests, and =20 the naming conventions in the directory). This was not completed, and =20 newer tests may not comply. The reason for chosing the perl style was, to be able to use the =20 extensive perl tools to - automatically run all the tests - be able to compare different runs with the perl tools - be able to generate a lot of different output formats (html/text/...) There's also a wiki page about testing, which you may want to check out: http://wiki.freebsd.org/TetIntegration I don't really know python nose. I just looked at it quickly and can =20 not see any big benefit compared to the perl test protocol outlined =20 above (and the stuff outlined in the wiki looks even more advanced =20 than that). Would you please elaborate where you see the benefits of it? Note that during release building perl is needed anyway to generate =20 the index for the ports collection. I don't know if python is required =20 currently during the release generation. Bye, Alexander. --=20 I would have made a good pope. =09=09-- Richard Nixon http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137