From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jun 22 12: 9: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE4B37B403 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f5MJ8sY11990; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:08:55 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010622184522.20003.qmail@web13601.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010622184522.20003.qmail@web13601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:08:48 +0200 To: Bzdik BSD , chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Mac X face: unprofessional & incompetent Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:45 AM -0700 6/22/01, Bzdik BSD wrote: > I am sure you'll love to flame Mr Raskin now. Just be authorative. > > http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2778897,00.html No, not at all. I have the greatest respect for both Jef Raskin and Jakob Nielsen. Everything I've seen so far about Aqua leads me to believe that there is a lot more work that needs to be done on it, and I haven't cared at all for the new "home entertainment" style that Apple has been applying recently to all their programs (QuickTime, iMovie, etc...). Indeed, Jef is absolutely right -- Apple has been sacrificing usability for useless eye-candy, and Apple would be very well served by re-hiring Jef to fix all their more recent stupid UI mistakes. After all, he is the original author of the Apple Human Interface Guidelines, and he really does know what he's talking about. Hell, this whole UI issue is another significant reason why I haven't upgraded to MacOS 10.0.4 yet. I don't know where you get these bizarre ideas that somehow the things you're saying are the same as what others are saying, and that because I disagree with you, I must necessarily therefore be required to also disagree with them. Indeed, I see absolutely nothing in common between what I've heard from you and what I've seen from the likes of Jef Raskin. -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message