From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 26 03:45:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39DAB98; Sun, 26 May 2013 03:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0243891; Sun, 26 May 2013 03:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r4Q3jMVs019033 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 25 May 2013 22:45:22 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB26.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.18]) by LTCFISWMSGHT06.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sat, 25 May 2013 22:45:22 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Super Bisquit Subject: Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction Thread-Topic: FreeBSD installers and future direction Thread-Index: AQHOWV60z6k72swSkkmGANUzy/EMLJkWZ1wAgAAkfQCAAE6UgIAAH7eAgAAeuACAAA8cgA== Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 03:45:21 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201F5B337@ltcfiswmsgmb26> References: <51A0DC3F.9030301@cran.org.uk> <51A1025A.2020607@cran.org.uk> <51A14445.4060305@freebsd.org> <51A15EDF.6050600@erdgeist.org> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <3F46DE392190CE458006DEF689110FD5@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-05-25_07:2013-05-24,2013-05-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , FreeBSD Hackers , Dirk Engling , Nathan Whitehorn X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 03:45:27 -0000 On May 25, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Super Bisquit wrote: > Please don't turn this into an architecture dependent mess. PCBSD is i386= & > AMD64 only. >=20 There's a GSoC project (of which I'm potential mentor) to fix that. However, you are entirely right=85 we can't in all seriousness even think a= bout using pc-sysinstall until it is solid on all architectures as bsdinsta= ll already is. GSoC project is: "Making pc-sysinstall FreeBSD ready by porting it to multi= ple architectures" --=20 Devin >=20 > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Dirk Engling wro= te: >=20 >> On 26.05.13 01:07, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >>=20 >>> I'm not aware of any movement there (on either side of the table). I'd >>> personally be very suspicious of an all-sh(1) future -- by far the >>> cleanest parts of bsdinstall are in C -- and this is especially true for >>> interacting with geom. That said, since I've lost nearly all of my free >>> time and ability to work on bsdinstall, I won't get in the way of anyone >>> else working on things >>=20 >> As discussed at BSDCan, I'd be willing to participate in the development >> and at least implement setting up zpools/zfs and geli/gbde providers. I >> have done similar things in sh in my ezjail tools and think I can glue >> the rest together. >>=20 >> Scanning through the pc-sysinstall code, I find nothing too fancy there >> regarding either interaction with zfs nor geom tools. I do not think it >> is necessary as a back end just for these features. >>=20 >> Nathan, is there any design rationale available for the scripts, e.g. on >> why you chose sh versus C and were you provided with some kind of wish >> list/requirements in the first place? Any particular mail thread to scan >> through beforehand? >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> erdgeist >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.