From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 12:13:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EB0A630BF for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: from emailserver2.asdf456.com (emailserver2.asdf456.com [72.18.207.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFEF912A8 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@noos.larseighner.com) Received: (qmail 30339 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2016 12:08:46 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 30328, pid: 30337, t: 0.1190s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO noos.larseighner.com) (70.115.135.184) by emailserver2.asdf456.com with SMTP; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 04:08:46 -0800 Received: by noos.larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@noos.larseighner.com; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 06:04:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 06:04:37 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.larseighnerhome.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Can I get an ISO-8859-1 system back Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:13:35 -0000 I upgraded from 9.? to 10.2. I used a custom kernel to avoid vt and raster fonts in sc. I updated as many ports as would build. Now I cannot find an editor that will display my files with accent characters correctly. I know the files are still iso-8859-1 because they are the same size they were and when I cat them, they have the right characters in them. This also shows that my term (cons25l1) can display the characters correctly. But joe, joe2, ee, and pico-alpine seem to convert them to some kind of UTF mess, with two bytes which display as grey blocks. I have tried using LC_ALL and LANG as en_US.iso-8859-1 in .login_conf, and unsetting them, I have tried several screen maps. How far back do I have to downgrade to eliminate UTF from my system entirely? I don't care if I can't run a gui. I just want an editor that will open iso-8859-1 as iso-8859-1 and not any 2-byte whatever, and will display accented characters correctly, as cat does. I will never want to use sanskrit or Chinese characters. I just want Western European characters and I do not want to waste two bytes on them. I want to use the VGA characters, which the experiment with cat demonstrates are on my video card and do work. I do not want unreadable raster fonts.