From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 8 14:51:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F10DEE1 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F996F2 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r08EpUDh039545; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:51:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r08EpUYr039542; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:51:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 07:51:30 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Mike." Subject: Re: 9.1 won't install - GEOM/GRAID issues In-Reply-To: <201301080933240940.004EE13B@sentry.24cl.com> Message-ID: References: <201301012202040487.028FC6F3@sentry.24cl.com> <20130102143853.754647c0@fabiankeil.de> <201301021035130285.00194F38@sentry.24cl.com> <50E46A27.9000202@a1poweruser.com> <201301080933240940.004EE13B@sentry.24cl.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:51:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:51:37 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jan 2013, Mike. wrote: > On 1/2/2013 at 12:11 PM Fbsd8 wrote: > > I tried to run the dd commands... > > Using the LiveFS disc for FreeBSD 9.1, I got some manner of permission > error, indicating that something would not let the dd commands execute. > Using the LiveFS disc for FreeBSD 8.3, the dd commands completely > successfully. > > After zero-ing out the sectors, I tried to install FreeBSD 9.1, and I > continued to get the RAID problems trying to mount root. > > So I punted that drive, and used another drive. FreeBSD 9.1 installed > without an issue, and it is running fine as I type this. > > So there is something about that other disk drive (something that is > not in the last two sectors or the first sector) that the 9.1 install > has issues with. RAID metadata could be larger than the last two blocks. Even a leftover GPT backup table is 34 blocks by default. If the drive is still attached to the controller that put the metadata there, it may hide those blocks from the user. The RAID BIOS menus or graid(8) may be needed to clear the metadata in that case. Or move the drive to another controller that will not recognize the old metadata.