From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 4 15:35:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8F16A4E0; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8850043D45; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 15:35:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k74FZnG2003112; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:35:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, John-Mark Gurney Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:08:55 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060801204501.GA19647@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20060802172505.GA1935@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20060804050242.GC58082@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20060804050242.GC58082@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608041108.56969.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:35:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Daniel Eischen , Andrew Thompson , "Matthew D. Fuller" , Steve Kargl Subject: Re: Where is thr_getscheduler X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:35:55 -0000 On Friday 04 August 2006 01:02, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Steve Kargl wrote this message on Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 10:25 -0700: > > Almost everything on a FreeBSD system depends on libc. Bumping > > its version number without careful coordination of bumping all > > other version numbers is full of landmines. Falling back of the > > retort "this is -current expect problesm" just glosses over what > > appears to be sloppy planning. > > Ummm.. don't we have have symbol versioning? isn't this exactly > what symbol versioning is for? I haven't been following this > particular discussion, but I thought now that we have symbol versioning > in the tree that we never have to bump the numbers? or is this failure > to have a proper document to tell someone what to do when they change > the API and provide the correct hooks for the new versions? 1) It's not on by default. 2) Once it is turned on by default, we will have to do one last bump to bootstrap into using symbol versioning for future ABI changes. -- John Baldwin