From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 29 13:21:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CE22818 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x233.google.com (mail-ob0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F6681 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id va2so7258033obc.38 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:21:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WXZYIliPA52Yyz+0E9+XMeFMdB3bCojSgt0R7FuoPNc=; b=JQWWp09L4ToQjdVKzTig+lTCnwS6zt/bgTYPW539t8MLglqkUguB3LwaDctuVawTDl /1SoyjgPqvf7ytgXt7ASKjatNgnmT5AyPHwfe0MzGiE1CjJCCsziwS5L0KHQKL/B7QKr 60skOSjFzqmmRDmx88pirnp9+kucDMTw+Id5DHZWt2943DsC6Zv1hltWlzCcXqBjn0EC HzVVuqxNJIkIrXnNOvScs76uA9mcuiH1qri4wUEWr8uka7bTcOHSMx4jt3qQbQJFVgu0 wGwY3nDZgbyQHHUjf83UWUOofPXFbnSDFe5Dqk5kH2w4iarhGh77xTjFan/bl4tG1909 Nzzg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.233.228 with SMTP id tz4mr437888obc.56.1396099304210; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.130.71 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 06:21:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140329131110.GA71345@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <53365D6F.5020804@allanjude.com> <20140329055249.GA69809@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20140329092923.GS37436@e-new.0x20.net> <20140329131110.GA71345@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:21:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A proposal From: Joe Nosay To: Steve Kargl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: freebsd-current , Lars Engels X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:21:45 -0000 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Steve Kargl < sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:29:23AM +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:52:49PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 01:46:15AM -0400, Joe Nosay wrote: > >>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Allan Jude > wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2014-03-29 01:22, Joe Nosay wrote: > >>>>> I have noticed that options VPS, VIMAGE, and MROUTING are not > standard > >>>> for > >>>>> the kernel with a base install. Is there any way that these can be > made a > >>>>> part of the normal kernel so that jail(s) would get the full benefit > >>>>> without a kernel recompile? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> VIMAGE has some problems with PF. Martin Matu ska said at AsiaBSDCon > >>>> that he had a patch that solves the issue. > >>> > >>> Really, you say? That's good news. > >>> So, will those options soon be standard for a first time install? > >> > >> Certainly, hope not. I don't use any of options. > > > > So you use all the other devices and options of the GENERIC kernel? > > Of course, not. Not sure how you inferred such a thing. > > IMHO, GENERIC should contain only those devices and options > that are required to get FreeBSD booted on new hardware. > VIMAGE and MROUTING aren't needed, and can be configured by > the user after installation. As for VPS, AFAICT, there isn't > an option/device named VPS; at least 'find /sys/ -type f | xargs > grep VPS' wasn't too enlightening. > > > -- > Steve > http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/announcements/ Booyah. It exists.