From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Apr 18 16:13:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A8FD430D3 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BA1FDE for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1EF60D430CD; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C404D430CA; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x22b.google.com (mail-qt0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB3BAFDC; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id m36so129378763qtb.0; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:13:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Dpj/1SgzH+19zsQfGksqkbSORE2rB+cG9fYJD2UgxfE=; b=vVfEAlzSBod5bWdef5VA9rkpcL/9RSP3xx5nTVUAaB7AJbJta6lqecclpDbZhhsEfW 2i0FDohLUBC7YMNE67z9zX0kqCOnAo2zKAa0yS0QSwECw/u2jXEEFrxMBZ3OZmzsNrCm 4kcBcbYa5tUDam1+/OVMozO7e39NfD8Z/m9NRdkSgBrbT+b6tFR5YvGREmfXTkpAHq1K kjpjxV0WnYgpXbDBflVM8z9rQjQAv8oTblsfcVlubYJueECZChFzQXXooWGwZB2NjvQ7 VcdXwaWZkWir3CVZiStIzmdiEU2XuAtLFfqRKoWm7IYwsn2YdpzGWYaouiQIwqMLEcNB 0OEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Dpj/1SgzH+19zsQfGksqkbSORE2rB+cG9fYJD2UgxfE=; b=HcluxhkvFtdgbYtTRbvSq6LCq5cbshYFtPVgWtSsr0bLlv5hHZHAGD/8ZOkcli7YEt 8n5VO7G2vKXkaC0etNvzgAO58lYEg6cgs8r3ReWR1pDk0nB6IkaXmsL64Nq9XhPEw0lL Jx9r5XflsqcZT9RRfgSA38muD5dt79N1lzXSZVUO7tB/AI56WMEag7LPdmI+8cyAVppR QjZ2o04jRQyRHoSacZIyMSnRWvC7i4bZUStfaJB2mAvySjMyrzqByddsPIy7KAP8ExKQ ateedB2WcNZWwgDZx9EFsQKIs96dpUPcwUOLkQD8Qlc445UfhDNZUNW8Goi6nCm1XFbK BTzg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5k8jqe47Vqwc5fRlNsRDFRE2fX8VN4kgal8DOzIMownP7q0DJb Un4qkg/eFIpGQ/+9xvfR+P7lb2vyl9RP X-Received: by 10.237.56.67 with SMTP id j61mr13025749qte.86.1492532012908; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.28.229 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <58F61A8D.1030309@a1poweruser.com> From: Freddie Cash Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed? To: krad Cc: qjail1 , "ports@FreeBSD.org" , FreeBSD questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:13:34 -0000 On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:57 AM, krad wrote: > quarterly does seem very cautious, maybe a monthly might be a good > alternative. I can understand people being hesitant about latest though. = I > guess these are not the people who ask though. Maybe the real answer thou= gh > is to have a specific repo for that port for the bleeding edge people mu= ch > like launchpad on ubuntu. It might get complicated though for big > dependency trees though. > =E2=80=8Blatest/ is good for desktop users who only care about running the = very latest versions of everything. quarterly/ is good for server users who want to make sure that installing a new piece of software won't require an upgrade of all the currently installed software (repo hasn't changed since the last install). And for desktop users who prefer to use their computers for doing work instead of spending all their time chasing after the "latest" flashy bling bling. :) quarterly/ also gets security fixes back-ported into it (on a per-maintainer basis so it's not 100% coverage yet), so you can stay secure without chasing new software versions. IOW, don't change the infrastructure, it's working nicely. Just educate the users. :D > > On 18 April 2017 at 14:54, qjail1 wrote: > > > I maintain a port and I have users complaining that the pkg system take= s > > many months before the updated version of my port shows up in the pkg > > system. > > > > My response is I tell them to change a line in their > /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf > > file > > from url: "pkg+http://pkg.Freebsd.org/${ABI}/quarterly", > > to url: "pkg+http://pkg.Freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest", > > > > The old pkg system never had this quarterly update cycle and I see no > > reason to have it now when its so easy to over ride the default. > > > > Why not just change the default to "latest" and save on all the overhea= d > > of the quarterly cycle? > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe > > @freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com