From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 26 12:18:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1580737B401 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.1u.ca (mail.1u.ca [216.138.197.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B229043F93 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM) Received: (qmail 74904 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2003 19:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.freebsdsystems.com) (lnb@freebsdsystems.com@192.168.0.27) by angus.1u.ca with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 19:18:04 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lnb@freebsdsystems.com) by mail.freebsdsystems.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4142.192.168.0.2.1056655084.squirrel@mail.freebsdsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20030626114845.01e0a150@popserver.sfu.ca> References: <3EF94580.90001@reversedhell.net> <5.0.2.1.1.20030626114845.01e0a150@popserver.sfu.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 15:18:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lanny Baron" To: "Colin Percival" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: Alin-Adrian Anton Subject: Re: replacing sendmail with qmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:18:36 -0000 It ends up as a religious war. There is no perfection in this world. Perhaps the next world. We use Qmail. But we use it because of vpopmail and our free email service at cybertouch.org. We used to use Sendmaail. It was great but at the time we could not find a solution to not having system accounts. Lanny Colin Percival said: > At 09:47 25/06/2003 +0300, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote: >>As sendmail showed to be so vulnerable in the past, and even in the >> recent >>past, I was wondering to propose removing it from the default install on >>freebsd. Currently, sendmail comes with the system sources, and runs as >>root. I think this is bad, and it could be replaced with qmail, for >>example. Or, something else, if you think something else is more secure. >>Please let me know if this is possible, or why if not, and to whom shall >> I >>address this idea (I wonder why it didn't happen yet). > > This topic has arisen many times in the past. Basically, it comes down > to this: Every MTA has its supporters and detractors; FreeBSD needs to > have > an MTA; FreeBSD currently has Sendmail. It's simply not worth changing at > the moment. > If you want to use qmail, go ahead and install it from the ports > tree. At some time in the distant future, when FreeBSD is fully > packagized, it's quite likely that Sendmail will be just one of many > installable options; but that time hasn't come yet. > > Colin Percival > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ Lanny Baron Proud to be 100% FreeBSD FreeBSD Systems, Inc / Freedom Technologies Corp. http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM 1.877.963.1900 +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~