From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 31 16:27:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4AE1065672 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946508FC14 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so13958812obb.13 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:27:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=j/znrdXuemTc7vA9FitYbL8AyPYNYWD9eLWCBsHVrg8=; b=dWP8SVH6XoEvE2XU6u4VqUOh7eX8H/ZP+C2wnUv6A7udZeMH2of1blIMXT2KRX7cCk KlS/SiYPRaqXDS5yRMQeB70knrnXXtZwKrFxkLd/WE+n7r6o3AY67kebT12dJJuOJoqX FEjxgMhEIIZ5EFhu6jq3F4jNayW6d5QipR9yp3THDQQHBMkaMMQ3NLMwaU7fCk3ycsm2 Ind7IOy5wWcTUdtq4z0oRyJJ8bH28z6mrowN2Y0jwW3nmvhTAlJeiz2FAVFCE0M4S1hE iULdPZqaDtm1uBp3J8/lfQRLhfUchFfLpOzCoWlZiKHaUL9Pb67RMPgOihswe8rDVRAU ifgw== Received: by 10.182.8.6 with SMTP id n6mr24433295oba.39.1343752051974; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.101.53] ([209.117.142.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm296700oec.2.2012.07.31.09.27.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:27:28 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201207301706.02788.jhb@freebsd.org> To: Arnaud Lacombe X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmIMUtJYzpMf7FnCphC8RzL9wd45uIBNAlid+PeHMhOLOAhxxztMSzbx2F9v8CAqCEfQO9i Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:27:32 -0000 On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Warner Losh wrote: >> [...] We lack that right now, which is why you're trying to shoe-horn = the FDT connections into a newbus world and complaining that everything = sucks because it is a poor fit. I'd suggest that different mechanisms = are necessary. >>=20 > I'm not trying anything, or at least no longer. I do not see the point > working on that when I can not get trivial patches in, especially > those fixing poorly maintained drivers, whose issues _do_ affect > people. Hey Arnaud, sorry to be a little harsh, but maybe if you shouted less = and cooperated more, people would be more willing to work with you. Having said that, I'd be happy to help fix this problem. I've not seen = the patches you're talking about, I'd be happy to take a look and try to = get them in, as appropriate. Warner