From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 01:18:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D699016A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:18:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B56743D3F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:18:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kjelderg@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so378580rnf for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:18:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ALi3MLVKW10YhM0I/+OZIjyU36Cm1/uypDsDNJ+wkghFyXqhE0WMquoO9N/eBt3ySRohbGmCxe6J9RRqKtmnwmKCy4K7sd5mKplsrB8rEeeYDlBsoMNcKXR6Ty5ZLTv8BIGmXgPk4jADyL79SYOHEa9eqXlo7V1P2eJa5Vxp+zk= Received: by 10.38.70.9 with SMTP id s9mr163944rna; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.101.19 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:18:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:18:29 -0600 From: Eric Kjeldergaard To: Robert Marella In-Reply-To: <1108168477.45718.19.camel@p4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200502112325.j1BNPw201164@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <1108168477.45718.19.camel@p4> cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Kjeldergaard List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:18:31 -0000 > If I can remember correctly, I have received help from both of you on > some of my previous posts. I thank you and I always enjoy reading your > view points. (speaking on behalf of Jerry as well as myself, and making some wild assumptions about Jerry based on his previous posts) Always glad to help. That's kind of what we are here for. > We have all run into a problem with a printer, NIC, scanner that is "not > supported" by FreeBSD because the vendor will not release the drivers or > code needed to build a driver. Actually, I haven't. I know some people that have, but generally between using the hardware list and buying hardware that isn't obscure, I have no problems with support for hardware. The FreeBSD team goes way beyond my expectations again and again. > The vendor could care less if our mascot is a daemon or Mount Fujiyama. > The vendor looks at the bottom line. How much engineer/programmer time > will it take and can I recover the investment. The vendor looks at the > number of installed systems and the competition for his product and > makes a _business_ decision. Seems about right. That is how capitalism functions.. > Anthony's point, and I agree, is that everything will grow when our OS > is taken for its strengths. It is difficult to get to the point of our > strengths when the Suits see a representation of what they perceive as; > childish or anti-christ or cartoonish whether justified or not. First > impressions are important. Might be true, though fBSD has come as far as it has without the aid of these Suits in question. It's certainly not about to stop growth without them. But I don't disagree that having more support from people that matter would be nice. > P.S. I like beastie... but I like the OS much better! Same here. Though beastie is pretty seksii. -- If I write a signature, my emails will appear more personalised.