From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 09:29:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5171616A403 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 09:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjoe@neo.samodelkin.net) Received: from neo.samodelkin.net (samodelkin.net [195.62.0.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ED813C44C for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 09:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjoe@neo.samodelkin.net) Received: by neo.samodelkin.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A145D171F7; Sun, 13 May 2007 16:09:13 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:09:13 +0700 From: Max Khon To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20070513090913.GA70647@samodelkin.net> References: <20070512153532.GQ21795@elvis.mu.org> <63984.1178992555@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS DOWN X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 09:29:42 -0000 Hi! On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 02:30:29AM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> I like how phk malloc has it as an option. > > > > But notice that it is not an option for programs that runs as root > > or setuid/setgid etc. > > > > Given the hostility of networks, I would support a more hardcore > > attitude to memory mismanagement these days. > > Just a data point: many people were turned away from FreeBSD because a > few PHP releases did a double-free or malloc-inside-signal-handler > calls. Yes, GNU's malloc should have been stricter, but it's not funny > when your apache crashes with SIGABORT. That's not a valid argument. PHP developers hate apache2 and threads. So what? /fjoe