From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 23 18:22:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFFFDCA for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 20pmail.ess.barracuda.com (20pmail.ess.barracuda.com [64.235.150.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C47B017A0 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Opium.Pharm.Guru (Opium.Pharm.Guru [162.243.227.187]) by mx1.ess.sfj.cudaops.com; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:22:37 +0000 X-BESS-ID: 1393179757-298552-26319-351932-1 X-BESS-VER: 2.4.2-r1402191942 X-BESS-BRTS-Status: 1 X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-Watermark: 1393784555.99383@1xs+qNVzG/zaze6p87HKdA X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-From: lucius.rizzo@lucius.xxx X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.647, required 3, autolearn=not spam, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.55) X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-IP-Protocol: IPv4 X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder: Found to be clean X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-ID: 7555A40ECF.ACC07 X-OurDotGuru-Mailborder-Information: Please contact your admin for more information Received: from lucius.XxX (lucius.XxX [95.85.22.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Opium.Pharm.Guru (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7555A40ECF; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 13:22:35 -0500 (EST) Authentication-Results: Opium.Pharm.Guru; dkim=pass reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key" header.d=lucius.xxx header.i=@lucius.xxx header.b=ElYdomv0; dkim-adsp=pass Received: from Lucius.XxX (lrizzo@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lucius.XxX (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s1NIMXV3025988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:22:33 GMT DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.0 lucius.XxX s1NIMXV3025988 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lucius.xxx; s=default; t=1393179753; bh=L1ms4Bu90kHUNo57MIoI+44ax0anbPU8aNmRJheIViA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2023=20Feb=202014=2018:22:32=20+0000|From:=20Lucius= 20Rizzo=20|To:=20Andreas=20Nilsson=20|Cc:=20Scot=20Hetzel=20,=20Bru no=20Lauz??=20,=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20" freebsd-current@freebsd.org"=20|Subje ct:=20Re:=20libinit=20idea|References:=20=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=ElYdomv0YCm7Cx+znBEM0otguUNzV44Ez3PwTqV3D4DlsNrCgFfbPgBcWJxqZxMut ERy1xOg8awNYfHy1nHU27tvFBnEDHSWaKqyB/uXpyBIzRquU9XkBiCdZPh33kpWyLR Thdc5xFa8bSVywyyq00d6c6RuqYX9wcmaf/IISXNJHfdMJB03wk5kqgQWr0lGgUOBH OsBjMKc1vvsQNn1ivgOR1iq3WlaQqPh78M8tZi2sYDx7eqc0A8WsTVFU9slk3tCxFZ UGKN54bgG1zdVxmww4eJIqAwyASLKwdHLMZb85zQpFYD1t7rJKUcbcFTdBTPbuC3Xu WlSJaq3d85qeg== Received: (from lrizzo@localhost) by Lucius.XxX (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id s1NIMWJu025987; Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:22:32 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: Lucius.XxX: lrizzo set sender to Lucius.Rizzo@Lucius.XxX using -f Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:22:32 +0000 From: Lucius Rizzo To: Andreas Nilsson Subject: Re: libinit idea Message-ID: <20140223182232.GA25967@lucius.XxX> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: T.gT Consulting - http://t.gt X-Homepage: http://www.Say.Si User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-PWhois-Status: No originator identified Cc: Bruno Lauz?? , Scot Hetzel , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:22:47 -0000 * Andreas Nilsson [2014-02-23 09:33]: > Imho, the replacement to init and rc-scripts I sometimes think about > would be to import SMF from opensolaris/illumos. There one can at > least get the commands run and config used without looking at the > source code. I like SMF from Solaris 11 onwards and even SmartOS. However, I have found to like systemd and use via systemctl on Arch far nicer than any other rc scripts to date. Anyone care to share their thoughts on the pros and cons of something like systemd the way Arch does? -- | _o _ |_)o_ _ _ |_|_|(_||_|_> | \|/_/_(_) - Lucius.Tel -------------------------------------- ++ Q: How many Bell Labs Vice Presidents does it take to change a light bulb? ++ ++ A: That's proprietary information. Answer available from AT&T on payment ++ ++ of license fee (binary only). ++