From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Oct 26 20:49:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C573CC222C3 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25CB3E8C for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([78.48.110.173]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LqV4f-1cU93X05dB-00e5Fm for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:49:34 +0200 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost6.localdomain6 [IPv6:::1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3997D23CE75 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:49:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Jive prejudices To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" References: <20161023124730.H69026-100000@main.put.com> From: Matthias Andree Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:49:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161023124730.H69026-100000@main.put.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:f2dnNuHWqk99plKgd/36jHXVqGQV038PcwUR60iCRF/zS265uYx SRG8R8Qf8KM/p3xhR+LQjjOR1NwZr+ueYoIWu4OQ/QPrh3zafXG2CRgV+Sb+PdAwfVCu/x6 WdT+PRwOKPIs4Vua2WCTAlVTZnbfqtNh+kyF3k+7FdNjN6i840fPUf6ufN1AHqRY2vOgKsw dnTTKlgHWvykzkQgzEDvg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:SnG6JnuVNBg=:yhGBzKnIzQ0FhRSZF9+Or8 7/scd/VkxyOs15Y3pJO33RH2bYh2ci3eT0jadbfOL9Nu8PDu5x7ZtDUlOSiUATunovkBG9o8I mimt+07bH1RY/z1NwOcEM40qcKBUMKGps4REKqJ5CL8U1nXrNrwWdgGzEdhJU32sG16q4OyVA TD5g6JldMqDK3cRIwl8L3DMkC1b1V3o6MP8CNZK2NWv6DDeFayYtjMJdt8T8s9rg6ZP4ndl7k IrG8/jGHCA8Zvzl6xy3NFyGMsj24UZ1GPkfLKNNZzYSHInFcvtcUr4JbmmZJHAHvN8QNSBgQU qS8kKJD+UUOTOvM+gFlLK6pl50DFnlAYs93iK7Kz0bZ7/w2PgciA5bV0jRk9Mqs95wQT8Azys 5E1ptdTSNGO7dwwJNDkAn13qtecNo0vrT1m0HVpUp3g3TSYc+HHYqhpjEJ4HrMnmB5ge8ySNh RarnImH94I1FDwfO8tpRv0Qn0Q+eNNQ+q+vKQjqR3hWJ2tEmkDJRy33kuevtjeMbdSDMdmZgC T8NmQDtK3bMvvoXVzbgaoaySf3T0rQJ1I3h4ReYiF6oyQuUSVUQg2XQmMA0IQwewWeD7PJ7UM ykpr6dmkTo8WJvr8pJy4TiQuJ37Q3BW7w8gEmq7isv8M6+qchBZ1a9wZ6WImL/EbBEMl5KMhX wStumwcqVmq6K9sl5E6ewmtTnkF8186K5pOI4B4aXE5JY8oPa5+/mIkrRy2dvlYjp5M2OAhMK o1r29Ygv/ULjTAcFcuZSkoamSUssdfGLIIywIFrAeJk+zKtkPL+9s1Z12GpRwgdDBCtUJC/i8 K4nFUrG X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:49:42 -0000 Am 23.10.2016 um 18:49 schrieb Louis Epstein: > > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Alphons van Werven wrote: > >> Louis Epstein wrote: >> >>> In any event,portmaster -a -i updates now abort because misc/jive is >>> detected on my system. >>> >>> This goes beyond "We will no longer provide this application" to >>> "we will no longer let you upgrade your applications as long as you >>> have this one installed". >> To be fair, I strongly doubt this is deliberate policy. >> >> Portmaster itself is a port too. When pkg(7) hit the streets and other >> sweeping changes were made to the ports infrastructure, Portmaster had to >> be updated and that might still be an ongoing process. In any case, Port- >> master needs *some* way of dealing with broken(*) ports and I can imagine >> that this can get tricky when dependencies are involved. From the looks of >> it, Portmaster just takes the easy way out and simply bails completely >> when it encounters a broken port. > Does it matter that I installed it with pkg rather than portmaster or make > install? Irrelevant. No matter how a port got installed, they all end up being registered with and managed by pkg(7).