From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:34:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBFD16A479 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6836213C4EA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784FD46B51; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:23:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:23:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: "Jason C. Wells" In-Reply-To: <478AF6BC.8050604@highperformance.net> Message-ID: <20080114142124.Y55696@fledge.watson.org> References: <18CC5A4A2AC36D7FF57615EE@ganymede.hub.org> <478AF6BC.8050604@highperformance.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:01:45 +0000 Cc: rra@stanford.edu, rees@umich.edu, port-freebsd@openafs.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, matt@linuxbox.com, freebsd-afs@freebsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" , openafs-devel@openafs.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AFS ... or equivalent ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:34:14 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Does anyone know if there is any serious work being done to get AFS working >> under FreeBSD? I have a large project that I'm working on that AFS (or >> something equivalent) would be *very* useful for, but we're trying to keep >> it as FreeBSD-pure as possible ... > > Yes. Please get in touch with any of the people CC'ed in this list. I > believe Matt Benjamin is the one who is actually getting serious on this > project. Patches were even mentioned in a recent email. I recall Jim Rees > is knowledgeable on AFS. I also think one Derrick J. Brashear was > interested/knowledgeable too, but I don't have his address handy. If I > misrepesented anyone please feel free to correct me. > > Matt, if you do not know Marc, look up Postgresql. Marc is the port > maintainer for postgresql as well as a postgres developer. (iirc) > > Me, I am just a user who put together an ugly, ugly little FreeBSD port a > long time ago in the hope that it would inspire some people who were > qualified to do real work to pick it up and run with it. > > There are a couple mailing lists suitable for FreeBSD porting discussions. > One is run by the OpenAFS people and the other is run by FreeBSD people. > > Sorry for the spam and cross posts. It seems like the interest in OpenAFS on > FreeBSD is building. I hope that this message will put the right people in > touch with each other and that maybe a concerted effort to port OpenAFS to > FreeBSD will arise. Arla, which is just an AFS client, runs on some versions of FreeBSD, although typically not really recent ones. I spent a little time this summer looking at getting it updated to 7, but ran out of time. I'd like very much to get at least the kernel parts of an AFS client into the base system, as otherwise any AFS port (be it Arla, OpenAFS, etc) will constantly be falling behind and breaking as the base tree moves forward. Our VFS tends to change with moderate speed, and having it in the base tree will allow it to be updated as part of regular changes to our KPI by the author of the changes, rather than watching more and more ifdefs appear in a third-party tree. I'm happy to lend a hand with this, but I don't have the time (apparently) to drive a port forward myself right now. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge