From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 22:45:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441A01065688 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D3E8FC1A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.194] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DMjiVl099778 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <147753C4-C47B-4FCE-8BF4-1337CDB9C543@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081013210348.GA76138@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:45:44 -0700 References: <20081013210348.GA76138@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: New PATA Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:45:46 -0000 On Oct 13, 2008, at 14:03, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 01:56:40PM -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I am encountering an issue with a new 160 GB PATA drive. Its being >> installed on an old system (Pentium II). The boot process never >> really starts. It gets in the BIOS to where it checks for drives and >> hangs with the message searching for the primary drive on the >> channel. Normally I have that disabled because the boot drive is >> SCSI >> but in that situation it just hangs and there are no messages. This >> drive is the only device on the channel and it is jumpered for >> Master. >> >> I am suspecting that the issue is the drive ATA/100 is not falling >> back to ATA/66/33 such that the motherboard can properly detect it. >> Seagate does provide a utility to reset the drive back down from ATA/ >> 100 but it requires that the boot get through to run the utility. >> The >> drive works fine in a Mac but the utility won't run there. I can >> continue to search for hardware that can boot with the drive attached >> to run the utility or am I chasing my tail here? >> >> Drive: Seagate ST3160815A >> >> Motherboard: ASUS P2L97 - Manual says ATA/33 only. > > I have had exactly that sort of problem with a 160G Seagate drive on > old > hardware. And even if it did work it would have only recognized 128G > due > to hardware or BIOS limitations. I could live with that. The drive its replacing is only 60 GB and its less than 10% used. > > > In the end I swapped an old HD out of another machine that was happy > with the new drive. > > A CPU and motherboard that does recognize your ATA100 drive costs less > than the HD. Perhaps its time to upgrade the MB? Unfortunately the disk was free. MBs are not. I would love to replace the entire system for a number of reasons, but the money just isn't there for that. I'll keep chasing my tail.