From owner-cvs-all Mon Jul 10 8:33: 9 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6176637B681; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:32:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA43045; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:32:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA84021; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007101532.JAA84021@harmony.village.org> To: Hiroki Sato Subject: Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT access Cc: andrews@technologist.com, dcs@newsguy.com, kuriyama@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:30:11 +0900." <200007091633.BAA23622@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200007091633.BAA23622@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000705220336.B646@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <39687856.A02D922B@newsguy.com> <20000709115607.B9388@argon.gryphonsoft.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:32:39 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200007091633.BAA23622@mail.geocities.co.jp> Hiroki Sato writes: : Will Andrews wrote : in <20000709115607.B9388@argon.gryphonsoft.com>: : : > On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 10:04:22PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: : > > I think Hiroki's family name is Sato (ie, both names are in : > > order). Yes. Daniel is right here. If one of the names is capitalized, it is the family name. If the name is written Xxxx Yxxx, then Xxxx is usually given and Yxxx is usually family. Unless it is written Yxxx, Xxxxx. Given Family Family, Given FAMILY, Given FAMILY given given FAMILY would be a quick summary. : > Yes, I privately cursed myself for the oversight, in Latin (don't ask). : > : > Sorry, Sato-san. :\ : : Oh, please feel free to call me whichever you like. :-) Yes. I've found that, in general, when communicating with the Japanese about FreeBSD, remembering the -san is much more important than accidentally calling them the wrong name. I'm told that this is much more offensive in a business environment than in the relatively imformal environment that the BSD project runs in. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message