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To: Bob Willcox , Arthur Chance Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200417120548.GC894@rancor.immure.com> <5dada2a9-6348-be80-b51b-303ff5b8790c@druid.net> <20200417150551.GD894@rancor.immure.com> <6c627b31-af61-96f8-bd9a-3010a52483d1@qeng-ho.org> <20200417152842.GE894@rancor.immure.com> From: Tim Daneliuk Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: <47f11aa2-d96c-7f56-019c-6aa9f43f5c12@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:50:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200417152842.GE894@rancor.immure.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:50:12 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: 03HFoBVx097655 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, timed out) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 493gYw0F4kz482J X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tundra@tundraware.com designates 45.55.60.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tundra@tundraware.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.07 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.41)[-0.409,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tundraware.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.816,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.59)[ip: (-1.23), ipnet: 45.55.32.0/19(2.98), asn: 14061(1.27), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:45.55.32.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:51:33 -0000 On 4/17/20 10:30 AM, Bob Willcox wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 04:13:05PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote: >> On 17/04/2020 16:05, Bob Willcox wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 07:32:22AM -0500, D'Arcy Cain wrote: >>>> On 2020-04-17 07:05, Bob Willcox wrote: >>>>> I would like to find a spreadsheet that I can run on FreeBSD in X that is >>>>> essentially standalone and drag with it tons of other stuff. I have openoffice >>>>> installed but it seems way over the top for my intended purpose. >>>> >>>> What is the intended purpose. A spreadsheet program is designed to be >>>> very flexible and allow many different uses. If you have a very >>>> specific use something else may make more sense and be even smaller if >>>> that is one of the requirements. >>>> >>>> If you do need a spreadsheet anyway, knowing the intended use may >>>> determine what products you need. Not all programs may have the >>>> features you need. >>> >>> Thanks for your response. >>> >>> What I would like would be something simple w/o lots of features as my intended >>> use is simple. I just want to be able to list expense items and their cost and >>> have them added up as a monthly expense budget. That's all. >> >> It's not a spreadsheet or under X and so may be inappropriate for your >> needs but awk with flat files could do that trivially, and it's in the >> base system. Not everything needs a GUI. > > Yeah, I actually had considered that. I've been writing awk progams for years > (since 1982) and can see where I could try that approach. Guess I was being > lazy and just thinking that maybe there was something out there more like what > spreadsheet programs were back in the mid '80s. > I have to say that, for most of us, the use of things like spreadsheets is pretty lightweight. In that light, I have incrementally been moving to Google Sheets (and Docs). It's cloud based so it runs on everything that has a decent browser. That way, I don't have to cruft up my BSD and Linux systems with business applications that typically are: A) Large with lots of dependencies and B) Often not frequently or well maintained. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/