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Date:      Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:49:46 +0100
From:      Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org>
To:        Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net>
Cc:        Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>, Florian Smeets <flo@freebsd.org>, ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy
Message-ID:  <EF5FD6F9-D6EA-45F6-8845-B0476D401EBB@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <7a7501f71442d27f6d8c1c0a16f247c1@mail.infomaniak.com>
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> On 14. Mar 2024, at 21:38, Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net>=
 wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFOn 2024-03-12T15:15:49.000+01:00, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein=
.net> wrote:
>> 12.03.2024 3:24, Daniel Engberg =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
>>=20
>> [skip]
>>=20
>>=20
>>>   Another possible option would be to add something to the port's mateda=
ta that makes pkg aware and easy notiable
>>> like using a specific color for portname and related information to sign=
al
>>> like if it's red it means abandonware and potentially reduced security.
>>=20
>> Of course, we need to inform users but not enforce. Tools, not policy.
>>=20
> Eugene
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Given that we seem to agree on these points in general why should such por=
ts still be kept in the tree? We don't have such tooling available and it wo=
nt likely happen anytime soon. Because it's convenient for a committer who u=
ses these in a controlled network despite being potentially harmful for othe=
rs?
>=20
> Just to be clear, I'm after where do we draw the line in general.
>=20
> If we look at other distros in general based on availability the decision s=
eems to favour overall user security than "convenience". Given that we have s=
ecurity policies etc in place I'd say that we in general are leaning towards=
 user security?

So your proposal is to only have ports in the tree that are safe to run on u=
nprotected public networks?

-m





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