Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:48:20 +1000 From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> To: Erich <erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Cc: Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "freebs @mail.isc.org>> Current FreeBSD" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, Adam Strohl <adams-freebsd@ateamsystems.com> Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20120605024820.5BB4521403B6@drugs.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:07:24 %2B0700." <3506767.Fvm2KmtnYf@x220.ovitrap.com> References: <C480320C-0CD9-4B61-8AFB-37085C820AB7@FreeBSD.org> <4FCD23FE.20906@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120605012425.4BE48213F3FF@drugs.dv.isc.org> <3506767.Fvm2KmtnYf@x220.ovitrap.com>
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In message <3506767.Fvm2KmtnYf@x220.ovitrap.com>, Erich writes: > Hi, > > On 05 June 2012 11:24:25 Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > > Version tagging is just a convient way to get a snapshot at a > > particular point in time unless you create branches that are them > > we do not ask for more. There should be only one difference to a snapshot. As > snapshot has a date. No matter in what state the ports tree was, it is in th > at state in the ports tree. If user - especially the one not so fit in this a > spect - want to use a snapshot, it will be difficult to impossible to figure > out which one they need. > > If version numbers would be introduced, it would be ok to use the version num > ber of the FreeBSD and have only version available which reflect the release > version of the ports tree. It's already there. If you want the ports as of FreeBSD 4.x EOL then the tag is "RELEASE_4_EOL". If you want ports as of FreeBSD 9.0 then the tag is "RELEASE_9_9_0". > People here want to make always a perfect system. People like me want to have > some small things in there available with a click. > > As the ports trees are there anyway, only the direct link to the snapshot of > that day or a version number in the ports tree would be needed to make this a > vailable for people who just want to use FreeBSD. > > Please note, I do not want any extra work spend here to make this perfect. I > only want a simple way to fall back to a big net which is not that old from w > hich the user can restart. > > You can add a huge note to the links stating the risks. This is all fine. > > There is another reason why I ask for this. I noticed a long time ago that th > e ports are in a better shape around the release date of a new version. So, I > try to get it always around the release dates. But, some times - you know ho > w life is - I miss this date. It does not kill me but it leads some times to > extra work steps I can do but I see the problems people will face who know Fr > eeBSD not that well. > > > One doesn't have to live at the bleeding edge with ports if one > > doesn't want to even when compiling. One can live a day, a week, > > a month behind the bleeding edge and allow other to hit problems > > and report them. > > How is this done with the knowledge of a beginner? One reads the documentation. > Erich -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
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