From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 12 9: 7:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lindt.urgle.com (lindt.urgle.com [195.173.172.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5531F154EC; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:07:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from mike by lindt.urgle.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 128REe-0001KI-00; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:07:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:07:04 +0000 From: Mike Bristow To: Mike Smith Cc: R Joseph Wright , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fbsdboot.exe can't load elf kernels Message-ID: <20000112170704.A5073@lindt.urgle.com> References: <20000112144430.A4818@lindt.urgle.com> <200001121646.IAA02338@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200001121646.IAA02338@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 08:46:28AM -0800 X-Rated: paedophile, FBI Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 08:46:28AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 07:29:23PM -0800, R Joseph Wright wrote: > > > Which brings up the question that keeps nagging at me: How possible is > > > it to create a pc bios that is geared towards BSD/linux? This would > > > include its own lightweight repair shell. Couldn't this solve a lot of > > > problems with pc hardware, to have a unix-oriented bios? > > > > About the only thing that I really miss, going from `real' unix to > > pc unix is the ability to do _anything_ with a serial console. > > > > A bios that can do it's thang over the serial port exists. But it's > > not very common. > > www.realweasel.com It's a very clever hack. I admire them for it. Doesn't stop it being an 'orrible hack. [ for those that haven't seen them, a board that looks to the BIOS like a MGA adapter but can throw the data out of the serial port instead ] I still maintain that the /right/ solution is for the BIOS to have a ``while booting shovel data out COM1 and accept data from COM1 as if it were my keyboard'' option. I've seen them on (I think) NCR boxes. -- Mike Bristow, Geek At Large ``Beware of Invisible Cows'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message