From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 2 20:58:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C29F16A4E0 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:58:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail2.speakeasy.net (mail2.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AA043D4C for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:58:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 21259 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2004 20:58:03 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Aug 2004 20:58:03 -0000 Received: from 10.50.40.208 (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i72KvNC8020109; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 16:57:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: Mark Murray Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 16:00:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <200408011140.i71BesOt070889@repoman.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200408011140.i71BesOt070889@repoman.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200408021600.00339.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha mem.c src/sys/alpha/conf GENERIC src/sys/alpha/include memdev.h src/sys/amd64/amd64 io.c mem.c src/sys/amd64/conf GENERIC NOTES src/sys/amd64/include iodev.h memdev.h src/sys/conf NOTES files files.alpha files.amd64 ... X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 20:58:05 -0000 On Sunday 01 August 2004 07:40 am, Mark Murray wrote: > markm 2004-08-01 11:40:54 UTC > > FreeBSD src repository > > Modified files: > sys/alpha/alpha mem.c > sys/alpha/conf GENERIC > sys/amd64/amd64 mem.c > sys/amd64/conf GENERIC NOTES > sys/conf NOTES files files.alpha files.amd64 > files.i386 files.ia64 files.pc98 > files.sparc64 > [ ... ] Why in the world are /dev/null and /dev/zero optional? /dev/[k]mem and /dev/io I can accept for those with uber-high security paranoia, but I can't think of any good reason to have a kernel without /dev/null and /dev/zero. To me it seems that this creates way more foot shooting potential than benefit. It's one thing to have device drivers for hardware that may or may not be present optional, but /dev/null and /dev/zero do not fall into that case. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org