From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 10 9:52:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D819437B503 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:52:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6AGq0t18073; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: Bsdguru@aol.com Cc: billf@mu.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010710095200C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:52:00 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Bsdguru@aol.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:54:59 EDT > These mechanisms existed before without BSDi, so there was no "impact". > Actually, ftp downloads got a LOT slower after BSDi took over, so i consider > it a negative impact in that area. This is typical "Elvis hasn't been seen lately. Aliens are hard to spot too. Conclusion: Elvis is an Alien" thinking. BSDi had no effect on ftp.freebsd.org's services and kept things completely unchanged there, it was merely other factors which changed. The Internet started to suck more and changing economic realities in the ISP space forced the archive to move to the east coast, where things only got progressively worse. This would have occurred even sooner had Walnut Creek CDROM been involved and, in fact, we probably would have pulled the plug a lot sooner since WC had far less money to spend on things like that. Bill's points are valid too - looking exclusively on the dark side of things is an engineer's predilection that's not always fair or right, and though an honest discussion on what went wrong and right is fine, let's try to keep the crack-smoking conspiracy theories to a minimum. Thank you. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message