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To: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0b12bf4c-8a2a-9642-7e72-600b6798543d@dreamchaser.org> <20181115203853.74f6d6d5@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken <freebsd@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: <73f5bcc8-91f8-f353-5c38-cd6a7dc32363@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:57:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181115203853.74f6d6d5@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:58:16 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 814DF6F5D8 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.08 / 40.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[googlemail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.81)[-0.807,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.05)[0.050,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:58:19 -0000 On 11/15/18 13:38, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:18:14 -0700 > Gary Aitken wrote: > > >> root@breakaway:/usr/ports # portsnap update >> /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. >> You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. >> >> Note the next-to-last line: >> /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. >> >> That may be true. It was created during a sysinstall, but >> I don't know what the mechanism used to create it was. >> > > As a general rule update tools should be allowed to start > with a clean directory unless you know for a fact that adopting a > exiting tree is harmless. > > portsnap keeps a hidden file in the ports directory that records what > it installed in that instance of the port tree - it need to be > there to perform an update. So what's the point of installing the ports tree during a sysinstall if it has to be re-extracted on the first update after the install? Why not recommend not installing it during sys install and doing a fetch + extract first thing after installation? It just wastes time and resources doing the task twice. >> Is this now normal? > > I think it always was. I don't recall having this issue on 10.x (not sure which) or 8.x. I'm not absolutely certain I installed ports as part of the sys install, but I'm pretty sure I did on at least one of them. Gary
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