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>=20 > Well, the feature X can be helpful for recovery purposes. The root > cause is not the feature X itself, but the size limit. And the > unfortunate fact, the size limit is not fixed, but depends on the > system. Therefore there are two options - either to fix the size limit > or drop option X from default build =E2=80=94 at least till the size limi= t is > fixed (or support for BIOS will be dropped). Or just build separate variants. As Bjoern said Lua is probably the straw breaking the cammel's back but I think it reasonable to assume that a system that has the resources to support ZFS does not have an ancient BIOS ? Thus a non-ZFS version could work for older systems while those without limitation can use the kitchen-sink version.