From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Feb 9 11:28:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F6DCD7E0B for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7349511C5 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 72A04CD7E0A; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724F3CD7E09 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d6::108:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AC5111C4 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-092-078-013-237.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.78.13.237]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B21783D0F; Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:28:20 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <20170209090301.GA36726@vein> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:28:20 +0100 Cc: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports , list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <00730CCC-E49F-4126-8141-B0830BC8BEC4@lastsummer.de> References: <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <20170208215052.GL87610@pol-server.leissner.se> <20170209084924.GA33265@vein> <18CC0877-1AED-4B85-B4BA-3B7FEA1F7B3B@lastsummer.de> <20170209090301.GA36726@vein> To: Kirill Ponomarev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 11:28:23 -0000 > On 9 Feb 2017, at 10:03 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: > > On 02/09, Franco Fichtner wrote: >> >>> On 9 Feb 2017, at 9:49 AM, Kirill Ponomarev wrote: >>> >>> I don't understand all critics I see in this thread and in your mail, >>> the fate of this project is all in your hands - try to contribute more, >> >> I'm going to stop you right there. >> >> That's not entirely true. Too few committers, substantial lack of >> maintainer feedback, apparently no mentors to pick up newcomers, and >> worst of all no newcomers. >> >> Decide for yourself which of these are true and which are self-made >> due to project management policies. > > I think I've dejavu, as I've been reading these statements since 15 > years, and they've the same meaning and context, with the same > argumentations and facts. The truth is - the dogs bark, but the > caravan moves on. The lack of an open reply is exactly what I was arguing for, so I'm not sure how much this stance helps your case. ;) Cheers, Franco