From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 17:21:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB97DB3B for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com (mail-oi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8500F69C for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a3so1965930oib.11 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LvXAq4wzwT1NlTCJXqwK/Tvyh7t6VruaBRhKFTHF7hY=; b=bs0jF8HhfRd0SWefbOiSJqLDoTR4vENwaryc+lxCODyrUE4PEOo79sZH63yWQ9RJMM BjoM0k1JTKSPIDoLqDkraKVCJNV1g+EsNBHr8KUqDRczZWETBGlwwNU06VXzGurWFAss gtHbwbbD8MA5ioZjgKOSLvJmlZGo1y2WHiJ/7fym2U8UhtKe9SAtRKRdE3mfQbv9Guxo ZyTrujKrUXlFgU5QY//NI/oBFodnGhhNxZtt8gsPTKNqWvRbuxOBj9V58zQLxmLYXdK9 3Z2Fny4j/PnQHbw06fqkIS5SA9EtxiElMgaZg5jpKut6n2hKjduFOB0FgRDjQePj1glG Hfmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.73.196 with SMTP id n4mr2417280obv.51.1413652862731; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.104.195 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.104.195 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <544246E8.1090001@ijs.si> References: <5441E834.2000906@freebsd.org> <544246E8.1090001@ijs.si> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:21:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ssh None cipher From: Freddie Cash To: Mark Martinec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD-Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:21:03 -0000 On Oct 18, 2014 3:54 AM, "Mark Martinec" wrote: > > If the purpose of having a none cipher is to have a fast > file transfer, then one should be using sysutils/bbcp > for that purposes. Uses ssd for authentication, and > opens unencrypted channel(s) for the actual data transfer. > It's also very fast, can use multiple TCP streams. That's an interesting alternative to rsync, scp, and ftp, but doesn't help with zfs send/recv which is where the none cipher really shines. Without the none cipher, SSH becomes the bottleneck limiting transfers to around 400 Mbps on a gigabit LAN. With the none cipher, the network becomes the bottleneck limiting transfers to around 920 Mbps on the same gigabit LAN. This is between two 8-core AMD Opteron 6200 systems using igb(4) NICs.