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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 2019 23:23:46 +0200
From:      Michael Tuexen <michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>
To:        Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
Cc:        vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>, freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>, Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: BBR patches?
Message-ID:  <5B730D8C-D0CB-4CCF-94F2-E70A09BA8188@lurchi.franken.de>
In-Reply-To: <79E10B99-7BD2-4D37-B1B3-49FB13923058@netflix.com>
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> On 25. Sep 2019, at 22:41, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:22 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi Randall, Michael,
>>=20
>> I'm trying to run some tests between FreeBSD BBR VM and another =
CentOS VM but don't see BBR performing well. FreeBSD (iperf -c) is =
transmitting to CentOS (iperf -s)
>>=20
>> Enable BBR ( sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.functions_default=3Dbbr) =3D>  =
213Mb/s
>> [loaded tcp_bbr using "kldload tcp_bbr.ko"]
>>=20
>> Enable FreeBSD ( sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.functions_default=3Dfreebsd) =
=3D> 271Mb/s
>>=20
>> Questions:
>> 1. Is there a way to track BBR internals on a running system?
>=20
> Yes, there is a tcp logging function that can be used to turn on =
things. The other
> relevant question in this are:
>=20
> 1) What is the RTT=20
> 2) Do you know your bottleneck router buffer size
> 3) What are the rwnd=E2=80=99s in play here.
>=20
> There are known issues with BBR when it faces a high BDP (lots of =
buffers), new-reno
> or cubic will do better.=20
>=20
> One other thing is if you are running from a web browser (like we do =
at NF) then simply
> setting default sysctl works but you have to restart the web browser =
if its running.
>=20
> If its just a simpler=20
>=20
> set sysctl
> start-perf=20
>=20
> Then that should work.
>=20
>=20
>> 2. Is "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.functions_default=3Dbbr" sufficient to =
turn BBR on?
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> See above. While the iperf is running you can do
>=20
> sysctl net.inet.tcp.functions_available
>=20
> and you should see a count by bbr showing its being used.
.. and doing such measurements with VMs adds another set of variables... =
I would do such
measurements in non VM setups. Except you really want to study the =
impact of running in
VMs. But I think this is not what you want...

Best regards
Michael
>=20
> R
>=20
>> Any pointers highly appreciated.
>>=20
>> Thanks a lot!
>>=20
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:42 AM Michael Tuexen =
<michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
>>> On 20. Sep 2019, at 06:52, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Ok - kernel booted, I loaded the module and it loaded successfully =
(kldstat shows tcp_bbr).
>>>=20
>>> So if I want to compare results between bbr and default cc algo, I =
just need to load/unload the bbr module - correct?
>>> Or is there another way to achieve that?
>> One option is that your test application supports choosing the TCP =
stack and you compare "freebsd" with "bbr".
>> One tools which supports this is uperf and here is an example how to =
select the (not existing anymore)
>> stack called "fastack"): =
https://github.com/uperf/uperf/blob/master/workloads/tcp-freebsd-change-st=
ack.xml
>>=20
>> The other possibility is that you set your default TCP stack before =
running your test app. You can so this
>> by executing
>> sudo sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.functions_default=3Dbbr
>> or
>> sudo sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.functions_default=3Dfreebsd
>> Then you test application can be TCP stack agnostic.
>>=20
>> Best regards
>> Michael
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Please let me know.
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for all your help.
>>>=20
>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:26 AM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>> finally ;) I was able to build it after manually extracting Makefile =
contents from patch.
>>> rebooting now ;)
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:12 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>> There should have been some in the patch. Tomorrow I can send you a =
tar of the modules/tcp/bbr Dir.=20
>>>=20
>>> It=E2=80=99s similar to the rack setup if you can=E2=80=99t wait and =
want to be adventurous=20
>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 19, 2019, at 7:31 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Hi Randall,
>>>=20
>>> I already have tcp_bbr.h and bbr.c at ~sys/netinet/tcp_stacks/
>>>=20
>>> However, there is no "bbr" under sys/modules/tcp/. I created this =
directory manually.
>>> Question:
>>> Which Makefile do I need to copy/move under sys/modules/tcp/bbr?=20
>>> I see there are Makefile and Makefile.org under ~modules/tcp...
>>>=20
>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src/sys/modules/tcp # ls -R
>>> Makefile        Makefile.orig   bbr             rack            =
tcpmd5
>>> ./bbr:
>>>=20
>>> ./rack:
>>> Makefile
>>>=20
>>> ./tcpmd5:
>>> Makefile
>>>=20
>>> Please let me know.
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:05 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>> Ahh.. Look in your directory.
>>>=20
>>> You did not create the sub=E2=80=99dirs or put rack.c or bbr.c into =
the right places
>>>=20
>>> When you load the patch (which was updated Sept 17th and should be =
different slightly)
>>> you will end up dropping a Makefile and bbr.c and tcp_bbr.h into the =
local dir since
>>> for what every reason patch cannot figure out how to place it.
>>>=20
>>> You must move=20
>>>=20
>>> bbr.c/tcp_bbr.h to -> sys/netinet/tcp_stacks
>>>=20
>>> You must create
>>>=20
>>> sys/modules/tcp/bbr
>>>=20
>>> and=20
>>>=20
>>> place the make file under there (just like rack=E2=80=99s).
>>>=20
>>> Do that and I think you will finally have it.. not sure why patch is =
not able to
>>> put the new files in the right places :0
>>>=20
>>> R
>>>=20
>>>> On Sep 19, 2019, at 10:42 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Hello Randall,
>>>>=20
>>>> I just retried it with headvm config that you had shared but still =
see error while doing
>>>> "make cleandepend"
>>>>=20
>>>> Any pointers highly appreciated.
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks
>>>>=20
>>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src/sys/amd65/compile/headvm # make cleandepend=20=

>>>> [...snip...]
>>>>=20
>>>> =3D=3D=3D> sysvipc/sysvshm (obj)
>>>> =
/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/headvm/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/sysvipc/sysv=
shm created for /usr/src/sys/modules/sysvipc/sysvshm
>>>> =3D=3D=3D> tcp (obj)
>>>> =3D=3D=3D> tcp/bbr (obj)
>>>> cd: /usr/src/sys/modules/tcp/bbr: No such file or directory
>>>> *** Error code 2
>>>>=20
>>>> Stop.
>>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules/tcp
>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>=20
>>>> Stop.
>>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src/sys/modules
>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>=20
>>>> Stop.
>>>> make: stopped in /usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/headvm
>>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/headvm #=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 11:08 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>> Hi Randall,
>>>>=20
>>>> I applied the patch available at:=20
>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582?id=3D62213
>>>> NOTE: This raw patch seems to be exactly the same as the one I =
downloaded on Sep10...hope I'm not missing anything here...
>>>>=20
>>>> I clicked on "download raw diff" and saved it to bbr_patch.diff =
file on my local machine
>>>> Step 1: Apply PATCH:
>>>> cd /usr/src/sys
>>>> patch < bbr_patch.diff
>>>> Patch was applied successfully - no errors seen there.
>>>>=20
>>>> Step 2: Update kernel config:
>>>> cp /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/MYKERNEL=20=

>>>> Added three options to MYKERNEL (per ur email - I have also =
attached the compile MYKERNEL file)
>>>> cd /usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/MYKERNEL
>>>> make cleandepend
>>>> =3D>This fails due to missing "bbr" under /usr/src/sys/modules/tcp/
>>>> [pls find the attached log file for exact error]
>>>>=20
>>>> make depend
>>>> =3D> This also fails due to missing "/usr/src/sys/modules/tcp/bbr"
>>>>=20
>>>> STEP 3:
>>>> cd /usr/src/
>>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL
>>>> This also fails due to prior errors in Step 2.
>>>>=20
>>>> Please find MYKERNEL config file + error logs.
>>>>=20
>>>> Many many thanks for taking time to help me through this!
>>>>=20
>>>> PS: I did a make buildkernel without any KERNCONF=3DMYKERNEL, and =
that successfully finished.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:19 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>> You can look in the config I sent.. but here is what
>>>> I have added to enable BBR and Rack to be built
>>>> *****
>>>> makeoptions     WITH_EXTRA_TCP_STACKS=3D1
>>>> options         TCPHPTS=20
>>>> options         RATELIMIT
>>>> ******
>>>>=20
>>>> So you should
>>>> 1) Apply the current patch in phabricator
>>>> 2) edit your config and add the above three lines
>>>> 3) go to the src dir and type
>>>>     make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dmyconf
>>>>=20
>>>> That should build and get you a kernel that will include bbr and =
rack. You will
>>>> need to, after it boots up type
>>>>=20
>>>> kldload tcp_bbr
>>>>=20
>>>> or
>>>>=20
>>>> kldload tcp_rack
>>>>=20
>>>> To get the modules loaded
>>>>=20
>>>> R
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 2:31 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi Randall, Michael,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Build is done successfully. I would appreciate if you could share =
config changes needed for BBR.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> My svn revision is: 352483
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>>>> awk -f /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod_syms.awk zlib.ko.full  export_syms | =
xargs -J% objcopy % zlib.ko.full
>>>>> objcopy --only-keep-debug zlib.ko.full zlib.ko.debug
>>>>> objcopy --strip-debug --add-gnu-debuglink=3Dzlib.ko.debug  =
zlib.ko.full zlib.ko
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Kernel build for GENERIC completed on Wed Sep 18 21:08:31 UTC =
2019
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Kernel(s)  GENERIC built in 1972 seconds, ncpu: 4
>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Vishal.
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:34 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>>> I'm using amd64. I'd get back as soon as base build is complete.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:09 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>>> To get bbr running you will need to change your kernel config.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Are you building i386 or amd64?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> After you have successfully did=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 1) buildworld
>>>>> 2) buildkernel
>>>>> 3) installkernel
>>>>>=20
>>>>> (you can look in UPDATING for instructions .. though the file is =
long :D)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> successfully let me know.. and then I will give you the tweaks you =
need to add
>>>>> to the kerneconf.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> It won=E2=80=99t take as long to build because at that point you =
can add in the
>>>>> NO_CLEAN NO_CLEANDIR options as well since you will have built =
everything
>>>>> the first time
>>>>>=20
>>>>> R
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 7:06 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> BTW, if you think I should be making any changes in configs, =
please do let me know.
>>>>>> My goal is to build a freebsd image with BBR patches on x86 VM.=20=

>>>>>> Nothing fancy.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:03 AM vm finance =
<vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks Randall, Michael,
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I did "svn svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src"
>>>>>> and now doing "make buildworld buildkernel"=20
>>>>>> [I didn't change anything in configs - just whatever are the =
defaults]
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I would update as soon as its done.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:53 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>> One other note.. I notice his kernel conf he sent does not have
>>>>>> the right things to get BBR even to attempt to build.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I would suggest using that config for the first steps.. then he =
must add
>>>>>> the additional tcp stacks and the hpts in order to get bbr/rack =
and any other
>>>>>> extra stack=E2=80=A6.=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> But I would suggest to build with his current config first and =
once he has
>>>>>> that in place and building
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> a) apply the patch
>>>>>> b) add the extra kernel options
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> R
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 6:50 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Thats  great idea Michael.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> =46rom the look fo the build log I was sent, his blow-up has =
nothing to do
>>>>>>> with the patches.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> He should probably
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> 1) Check out a fresh version of head.
>>>>>>> 2) Follow the instructions in UPDATING to get a clean build.
>>>>>>>  =E2=80=94  make buildworld
>>>>>>>  =E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
>>>>>>>  =E2=80=94 make installkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>   ** do the reboot and merge master **
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Then after that he could
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> 3) Apply the current patch in the review
>>>>>>> 4) do build that
>>>>>>>     =E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf  -DNO_CLEAN =
-DNO_CLEANDIR
>>>>>>>     =E2=80=94 make install kernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> And he should have it all working :)
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I have done multiple builds with the latest head from yesterday =
both with and without
>>>>>>> the extra stacks and hpts.. and I can=E2=80=99t get a build =
failure.. this would verify he can
>>>>>>> at least build head..
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:10 AM, Michael Tuexen =
<michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> On 18. Sep 2019, at 08:19, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> correcting a typo:
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
>>>>>>>>> current revision: 352434
>>>>>>>> I suggest to build/install head first without any patches. =
After that has worked,
>>>>>>>> apply the patches you are interested in. That way it is easy to =
separate generic
>>>>>>>> build issues and issue specific to a patch.
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:11 PM vm finance =
<vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Actually I am on head already as mentioned previously. Pulled =
it using
>>>>>>>>>> yesterday:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /use/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> If you could pls let me know the new patch, I can try that.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On 18-Sep-2019, at 8:56 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> There have been several patches pre-this one that provide
>>>>>>>>>> the infrastructure to support BBR.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Release 12.0 will *not* have these patches and will *not* =
compile it.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I have no intention at this point in doing a MFC of this =
work.. so if you
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> to run BBR you need to run Head
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, vm finance =
<vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Randall,
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Could you please provide a pointer to the latest patch. I had =
applied the
>>>>>>>>>> one you published Sep-10.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Following is what I have done:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Picked FreeBSD 12.0 RELEASE VM from osboxes.org
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Got VM up under VMPlayer on x86 laptop
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Checked out latest codebase from freebsd repo:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src*
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> cd /usr/src;
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make buildworld buildkernel
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> [this is where make fails when patch is applied]
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I could try to build with your latest patch - please send me =
a pointer.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:33 PM Randall Stewart =
<rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Looking at your make file log I can=E2=80=99t really tell =
what you are doing.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Its not the BBR or Rack code that is blowing up=E2=80=A6
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Are you cross compiling?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I have done the old fashioned kernel make
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> cd src/sys/amd64/config
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> config headvm
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> cd ../compile/headvm
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make cleandepend ; make depend; make -j3
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I have done
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> cd src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dheadvm
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> And even
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> to make sure that the build works without bbr.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I attach my headvm config..
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> What exactly are you building and how? kernel config too =
please?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Randall Stewart =
<rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I was at 352408.. let me update and try it
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Randall Stewart =
<rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Hmm
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Did you get the patch I updated too this am?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I have built it both with and without the bbr stack and had =
no issue..
>>>>>>>>>> there was
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> an issue with KTLS before the update though.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I don=E2=80=99t recognize what you have below there though=E2=80=
=A6
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:47 AM, vm finance =
<vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Got it - thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. =
Following is SVN
>>>>>>>>>> info + make error mesg.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> #svnlite revision
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Path: .
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Relative URL: ^/head
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Revision: 352436
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Node Kind: directory
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Schedule: normal
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Last Changed Author: jah
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep =
2019)
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo =
dev_net.llo
>>>>>>>>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o =
sack_filter.o
>>>>>>>>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h =
opt_tcpdebug.h
>>>>>>>>>> opt_kern_tls.h
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rm: x86: is a directory
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:41 PM vm finance =
<vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Got it - thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. =
Following is SVN
>>>>>>>>>> info + make error mesg.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I have also attached the entire build log...snippet is below
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> #svnlite revision
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Path: .
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Relative URL: ^/head
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Revision: 352436
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Node Kind: directory
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Schedule: normal
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Last Changed Author: jah
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep =
2019)
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo =
dev_net.llo
>>>>>>>>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o =
sack_filter.o
>>>>>>>>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h =
opt_tcpdebug.h
>>>>>>>>>> opt_kern_tls.h
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rm: x86: is a directory
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> *** Error code 1
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM Randall Stewart =
<rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Pacing is provided by tcp_hpts.c. The current linux patches =
do not have
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> to have fq.. they built an alternate means of doing pacing =
into bbr.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> In either case our testing has shown that our pacing is more =
accurate than
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> either fq or the internal pacer :)
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:05 AM, vm finance =
<vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Randall.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> I was able to apply the patch - now rebuilding the kernel. =
Would update on
>>>>>>>>>> how it goes.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, is there any description on how lack of tc_fq under =
FreeBSD is
>>>>>>>>>> compensated here?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> The original BBR patches on Linux show that as a must-have? =
Is that
>>>>>>>>>> functionality implemented via tcp_ratelimit.[ch]?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Any pointers to existing presentations/discussions highly =
appreciated?
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Randall Stewart =
<rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to compile it against the current head. I =
re-doing that
>>>>>>>>>> now (had an
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> issue with my machine and had to roll it back to a backup).
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> When I put the patch up on Sept 10th it complied with and =
without BBR on
>>>>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> was that rev..
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Looking in the commit logs that would have been around 352191
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:32 AM, vm finance =
<vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Randall,
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for releasing BBR patch:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582#change-xcAWBif3E9Jq
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Could you please let me know what SVN/GIT label tag this is =
based on? I
>>>>>>>>>> would like to patch and experiment with it. I couldn't find =
this info in
>>>>>>>>>> the released patch.
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:26 AM Ryan Stone =
<rysto32@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rrs@ has just posted the BBR patch to phabricator:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to =
"freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> ------
>>>> Randall Stewart
>>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> ------
>>> Randall Stewart
>>> rrs@netflix.com
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> ------
> Randall Stewart
> rrs@netflix.com
>=20
>=20
>=20




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