From owner-freebsd-security Fri Jul 14 15:18:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FF837BA78 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10041; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000714161714.04b5bb00@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:18:22 -0600 To: Garance A Drosihn From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Displacement of Blame[tm] Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG, Warner Losh In-Reply-To: References: <20000714123827.A64184@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000714120932.A63784@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000714123827.A64184@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree with Garance 100%. Nothing will be perfect, but several of the schemes suggested here are better. Hopefully, Warner will consider these and choose one. --Brett At 12:17 PM 7/14/2000, Garance A Drosihn wrote: >I am one of the people who is actively "stating the problem". I >think you do not understand. I believe that everyone knows that >some objection can be imagined for any format which is suggested. >We all know that no matter how careful we are, there is someone >out in the world who is so dumb that they will misunderstand it. >The fact that there is no perfect subject-format does not mean >that every subject-format is equally good. > >Thus, the fact that you can throw stones at one specific suggestion >is not helpful. All I wish for is a little brain-storming, just to >see if there is any subject-format strategy that we feel will do >a little better. I do agree that some things will still get the >wrong idea from the subject-format that David suggested, but I do >still think that his suggestion is BETTER than some of the other >alternatives. Thus, I like his suggestion. > >If you have an alternative which is even better, than it would be >helpful to suggest that alternative. We're just brain-storming for >ideas here, and someone (not me!) will pick the most promising one. > >Just MO. > > >--- >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu >Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message