From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Apr 19 20:44: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from artemis.drwilco.net (diana.drwilco.net [66.48.127.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E5237B417 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 20:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceres.drwilco.net (docwilco.xs4all.nl [213.84.68.230]) by artemis.drwilco.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3K3h6q53718 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Fri, 19 Apr 2002 23:43:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from drwilco@drwilco.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020420054343.01c6b5e8@mail.drwilco.net> X-Sender: lists@mail.drwilco.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 05:55:55 +0200 To: hawkeyd@visi.com, dsturnbull@optushome.com.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Rogier R. Mulhuijzen" Subject: Re: updated install files for 4.5-R after security patches? In-Reply-To: <200204191215.g3JCFvL03141@sheol.localdomain> References: <1019175741.22772.5.camel_darkstar.turnbull.org@ns.sol.net> <1019175741.22772.5.camel_darkstar.turnbull.org@ns.sol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:15 19-4-2002 -0500, D J Hawkey Jr wrote: >In article <1019175741.22772.5.camel_darkstar.turnbull.org@ns.sol.net>, >Sections 9 and 19. In a nutshell, one uses the 'cvsup' tool to freshen >your source code, then one rebuilds and installs the OS and/or kernel. >It's not as daunting a task as it sounds. > >As it turns out, there's a very recent thread in freebsd-security about >this very topic, if you want to know the ups and downs about it. I actually know David and I know he's familiar with cvsupping and rebuilding from source. I guess what his question should be read as "if the ISO images and distributions are not updated after the -SECURE branch has been updated, why isn't this the case?" And I must agree, we know there are bugs in 4.5-RELEASE, yet we don't update the images for 4.5-RELEASE. Yes of course people can use cvsup and upgrade that way. But what about people who are about to install from scratch? Do we REALLY want them to install a faulty version and then upgrade with cvsup? I can't see any good reasons to not update them, or replace 4.5-RELEASE with 4.5-RELEASE-pN at the very least. And also, cvsup is a beautiful thing, but I can't see someone with a 500MB harddrive doing a make buildworld. And yes I sometimes am forced to run FreeBSD on such a small system. >BTW, freebsd-hackers is not the appropriate venue for questions like this. >Neither is freebsd-security, actually. Try freebsd-questions next time. Since he was aware of cvsup I don't think -questions was the right place. He just should have elaborated a little more. Greets, Doc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message